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Aktshually Article 20 subsection 4 of the German Basic Law gives me explicit leeway to shoot the Führer:
(4) All Germans shall have the right to resist any person seeking to abolish this constitutional order if no other remedy is available.
And on his birthday, too!
That is so fucking awesome honestly.
“Hey we had someone try this before, if they try again, you are to stop them by any means necessary.”
Turns out learning from mistakes and history works.
The wording includes an important caveat:
(4) Gegen jeden, der es unternimmt, diese Ordnung zu beseitigen, haben alle Deutschen das Recht zum Widerstand, wenn andere Abhilfe nicht möglich ist.
This roughly translates to
Every German has the right to resist those who seek to abolish this [free and democratic] order if no other means are sufficient.
The conservative politicians/judges have watered it down to the point where you can only violently resist them once democracy has already failed.
Fuck Trump & Musk. If I was in any position to, I would kill them myself, and if you ever are, it’s your moral obligation to, as well.
Harm reduction can take many forms. I’ve always said eating the rich is vegan, but honestly so is punching Nazis. You don’t always get a chance to do one, let alone both but when you can, you should.
The secret service would kill you if it was Trump. I don’t think it’s a worthwhile trade, the old guy’s going to die soon anyways. His life is not worth more than yours.
Plus violence is what they want so they can really start telling the military to do things.
I agree with the sentiment though. I think they both deserve to be executed.
Trump should have been executed for treason in 2021.
Plus violence is what they want so they can really start telling the military to do things.
How long are you guys gonna keep making this argument? They will fabricate any excuse they need, unconstrained by whether or not you actually fought back.
The secret service should kill Trusk themselves if they care so much about the country.
I find it interesting that this basically never happens. The security details of these guys basically never turn against them. Not just US guys but all the dictators and brutal warlords and such. And I get that it makes sense to be quite rare, but I genuinely know of zero instances of it.
Not that I’ve done deep historical dives, but…is there any instance of a ruler’s bodyguards/security murdering them for the harm they’re causing? Cause presumably these people have others they care about that may be being harmed by the things going on.
Indira Gandhi was killed by her Sikh bodyguards because she ordered army to kill Sikh terrorists including their leader, Bhindranwale.
Except, you know, the secret service already let one shooter try.
Nah, I’m not shooting anyone. And I’ll decide for myself what my moral obligation are, thanks.
There’s no need to go around making actionable threats of violence that could be read out in a courtroom, that’s called fedposting. Try this on for size:
If the right keeps pushing, eventually someone’s probably going to feel like their back’s against the wall with no other recourse. For example, if there was, say, a national abortion ban, I wouldn’t be surprised if someone tried to kill the people responsible. Tragic, really, but that’s just the world we live in. Look, I want to do things peacefully, but if I can’t produce results that way, well, it’s not about me, it’s about what’s going to happen if other people lose confidence in my methods.
A prediction isn’t a threat. I’m allowed to speculate about other people doing stuff, aren’t I? Some historical orgs spoke that way, and their predictions could be eerily accurate.
Donald Trump and Elon Musk should be assassinated ☺️ 😍 😋 🤪 😇
Wow, just being able to say that when inciting violence is banned on most other social media felt empowering. I know to y’all this probably comes off as just another basic one-liner comment, but… I’ve only recently started using Lemmy when I used to just browse Reddit without an account. There were times when I almost felt crazy, because I felt so much rage against these rapist scum I thought- given the opportunity- I would end their lives in an instant, consequences be damned. But on Reddit where any talk of violence (against the state) is banned (but violence via political persecution of minorities is A-OK!), I thought I was just a radical extremist.
And maybe I am a radical extremist, Lemmy as a whole is certainly small enough to be an echo chamber, but in a time where peaceful protest does nothing but paint a target on your back, free speech by necessity needs to include ushering people to make use of “the 4th box of liberty,” the cartridge box. By god does it feel good to finally be able to say that.
I saw shit like THIS all over my town:
They go low, we go low.
When they go low, start stomping the fuckers
They wanna be the bar set in hell let’s ensure they go there faster than usual. My grandfather helped them, I’d be happy to continue the family linage of “making them find out after fucking around.”
Don’t go low, go center mass.
You can even say things like “someone should put a heavy duty zip tie round JD vance’s neck and then leave him to choke in a rest stop toilet”. Or “someone should put powdered death cap mushrooms in Donald Trumps food”.
Where can I report that my dead grandad was advocating violence on Juno beach in 1944?
freeze peach patriots
“You know how a popular time travel question is, if you could go back and kill Hitler, would you? People are going to be asking the same about Trump and Musk (and Vance and Thiel and a whole mess of others) if the dust ever settles.”
The dust always settles eventually.
Just that it may be radioactive dust this time
And that’s the big thing that worries me. In the last world war, even in an all-out war with no holding back, there was a limited amount of damage that could be done to the world and civilization. Today? We have enough nukes to destroy human civilization a dozen times over.
Go back and make sure everyone involved in Teapot Dome scandal actually get arrested and charged.
Teapot Dome, Business plot, Watergate, Iran-Contra, and never end reconstitution on the south.
Bleak when only a time traveler from the future can save the world from impending doom at this point.
I actually like the idea of giving both Donald Duck and Elon Musty a bunch of laxatives and having them fight over one small bathroom.
RIP King.
Me getting banned from asklemmy there for just saying Luigi
Just going to leave this here
This is the argument I get in with people in my life. Even my significant other is starting to fall into this trap that “they can’t hold up cabinet selection” due to some misguided notion that holding your nose and being respectful is necessary. I blame coworkers and not wanting to think about something that stresses them out. It is maddening.
Thank you for linking the paper.
I unsubbed from everything over there except for Working Class Calendar and Work Reform. Normies that are still normies in 2025 making me irrationally angry.
Yup. We’re in an extra normal time and people are still clutching to decorum and civility as if it matters anymore.
It didn’t take me long to realize blocking that instance was a good idea. I didn’t know about lemmygrad and hexbear (which federated) until someone from lemmy.world pointed out another user was “brigading”, and looking up how lemmy.world eventually blocked that instance the feeling I have towards lemmy.world is that they act like the “world police” of the lemmy-verse.
Lemmy.world isn’t even based in the US 💀
The Fuhrer shot himself, if I recall. Not that I wouldn’t go back in time to shoot him again.
Shoot him earlier, before he killed all those people.
Wouldn’t change anything, he only joined an already existing movement and became its leader, but without him it’d simply have been someone else.
Start at the peace treaties after ww1, already make them similar to the ones after ww2 (promoting strong European collaboration to ensure peace instead of punishing the losers).
Shoot the next one too
Could be worse. Try saying anything critical about Putin to the admins of .ml. Instant ban from like, 20 different communities.
And for that matter, just politely disagree with the hive and see how fast you get Rule 1’d.
Not in anyone’s defense, but I’m pretty certain I read that .world is hosted in the Netherlands and are subject to the laws there. Suggesting harm on others is against the laws there or something.
.ml has no excuse for their authoritarian bullshit.
Yeah that’s bullshit. I have said plenty of anti Putin stuff in my instance. Same for being critical of China. I just don’t spew propaganda without context when I do.
Cool. Check the modlogs bud. Also, I said to the admins, not just in some random shithole edgelord community. One of them even refuses to answer when asked if they support Putin.
Also, I went back 8 months of your comments. Not a single opinion that goes against the hive was posted in .ml. You brought your shit to world and posted it there where it’s allowed.
Imagine that.
Here are the modlogs. You’ve never been banned on lemmy.ml:
Did I say I was?
I just checked them: you’re not banned from .ml, but you are banned from several . world coms for being too right wing even for them.
ROFL!
I’m banned from a troll community I never even posted in, WAS briefly temp banned for arguing with some tankie kid, and “shitprop?” I’ve no fucking clue what that even is.
Nice little gotcha attempt though. It was cute. But… I’d advise you to put out the fires in your own house before lighting matches in the yards of others, because you really Shouldn’t be taking. Your modlog reads like a cautionary tale on how not to conduct yourself amongst adults.
You probably shouldn’t have told people to check your modlog if you were going to lie about your modlog.
I’m not sure why you’re trying to deflect to mine: you were the one complaining about being banned from .ml when you aren’t.
The reason I haven’t been banned from .ml is because I don’t create content for shithole communities with authoritarian admins.
And here’s my modlog.
I’ve nothing to hide, bud. It’s all there. Want to compare? Or are you willing to admit your little distraction didn’t work.
My point is, if someone wants to talk shit about one instance, let’s balance the playing field and call into question another to compare, because it’s commonly known and widely accepted that .ml is run by authoritarian admins that constantly overstep the mod teams there.
They remove shit that provenly doesn’t break the rules- daily. This is not up for debate. Modlogs are public.
You tried to make this personal so you can report the conversion and get it removed. I know the game. I’m not playing it. I said what I felt needed to be said. And I’m done.
Enjoy the last word. Its clearly very important it is to you.
EDIT: it’s very peculiar how my comments all mysteriously get 4 downvotes almost immediately after I post. I wonder why that is…
Man, I am not reading all of that.
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.ml’s defense is they are trash beings like .dbzer
.dbzer0 is pretty cool for the most part. I have no Issues with them. .ml however, can burn in a dumpster fire for all I care.
