• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    At some point in my 47 years, because it sure was not like this when I was younger, Americans adopted this idea in huge numbers that the richer you are, the better you are, and that if you support the right rich person, you get to be rich too.

    I don’t know how America got there and I did not notice it happening.

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      Uhh, nah that’s not new. Charles Dickens explicitly talked mad smack about how greedy and self-enamoured Americans were, and their general worship of the wealthy. It was a severe kick in the head to his previous conceptions of America being a place of prosperity and opportunity.

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        Sorry, I didn’t realize Charles Dickens was raised in the U.S. like I was and told these things by his parents.

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          He wasn’t, Charles was born and raised in Britain, but later in his career he visited the US for his journalist work.

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            Then possibly I would know a bit more than him about being raised in the U.S. and being told such things by parents? Especially within the lifetime of everyone on the planet currently?

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              Having also been born and raised in the United States and having met a variety of people from various walks of life, I am of the opinion that he hit the nail square on the head. I’ve met kind selfless people, sure, but that is the exception to the rule most often.

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      I think it really took hold somewhere prior to social media, equating business success with greatness, and with social media people became vaguely more aware of these masters of business. But as social media matured they became more active and the populace largely learned that they’re no more intelligent than anyone else, just lucky and often have less morals.

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        The first part came about because the second part actually is true. People are glazing billionaires in the hope they get noticed and get a job out of it. That won’t happen if you’re constantly shit talking them.

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          I’d like to think I’d laugh at their job offer, but musk could totally buy me off for a few million. I could use a few million.

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            Yeah, it’s understandable. If you can scumbag your way far enough into their good graces you’re set for life. I personally don’t think the odds of that happening for me are worth selling out my beliefs but I think most of these people’s beliefs are already most of the way there anyway and it isn’t a big leap for them.

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              Right, Elon wouldn’t have to look far to find my criticisms, and I’m ok with that, better odds of winning the lottery anyways

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      Wasn’t it always like this in America? Just with enough growth of economy so that everyone felt like they made progress?

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        No one ever told me when I was growing up that I could get rich if I just wanted it hard enough and worshiped the right people.

        And no one ever told me that wealth was the same as virtue.

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          Guess you grew up in a place with a chunk of nice people 😌 other man weren’t that lucky and were pushed by parents and people around that only money is the goal, ghat with money you can buy it all. As woman you get told to look pretty so you can get rich by fucking a billionaire.

          Many have developed psychological disorders due those pushing, that start even before school

          I think it is a major reason for suicidal teens.

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            You guess wrong. I grew up around a bunch of bigots who didn’t like me because of my ancestry and let me know it on a regular basis.

            But you’re right, I was never pushed by my parents that money was the only goal, nor was anyone I know. It is quite possible you’re younger than me, which would explain that. I’m 47.