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Most Americans do not support this madness. Too many Americans refused to take their civic duty seriously, with 42% abstaining.
77M people voted for Trump out of 245M registered voters. That’s less than a third of registered voters, and less than a quarter of the population of 335M.
Well, it could be argued that most Americans support this if the majority decided to not vote, which supported Trump, or voted for him. But also at some point, not resisting also becomes tacit support. I say that knowing I haven’t taken to the streets yet, but I hope that true resistance does foment. Otherwise we’re pretty much complicit in the downfall and the genocide when it starts.
You’re right to say abstainers are complicit in getting Trump elected, but I wouldn’t conflate that inaction with support.
Well, most people feel disenfranchised and disengaged from the system. When people tell you that their vote doesn’t matter, they mean very literally that it feels to them that they have no control over the system. It’s just this thing out there that is unresponsive to their wants and needs, and they just have to deal with it. Is it any wonder that people don’t feel a civic duty?
For sure. I understand how people feel, and how that affects their investment, but feelings and duty are exclusive.
Duty: something that one is expected or required to do by moral or legal obligation
Taking civic duty seriously means recognizing and fulfilling one’s obligation, regardless of one’s own investment in the responsibility.
For example, I was nauseated casting my vote for Hillary in 2016 after what she and the DNC did to Bernie. I fulfilled my duty, albeit reluctantly.
I wish Charlie Angus could be our next PM
It’s too bad he’s retiring from politics. He would have been a great leader of the NDP.
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He specifically cited the coming changes to his riding as part of the reason for his retirement. His riding of Timmins-James Bay is set to expand by more than 20,000 square kilometres, encompassing many new communities and being renamed Kapuskasing-Timmins-Mushkegowuk in the next federal election.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp-mps-leaving-politics-1.7163340
You can see my deleted comment? Interesting!
Was that change for gerrymandering to get the NDP out?
You can see my deleted comment? Interesting!
I replied through the notification, so maybe there’s a race condition?
Was that change for gerrymandering to get the NDP out?
Eh. I think (but I’m not sure) that Canada’s electoral boundary commissions are fairly arms length. I suspect it’s more about getting a larger population for the riding, but I haven’t looked into it.
If anything was fishy, I expect Charlie Angus would have raised the issue.
How is it that Trump is able to so easily dance circles around lawyers and politicians and move around the law without actually breaking it? How are career politicians outmaneuvered by this guy? What the fuck are you guys paying them for? I feel like people who’s whole career has been politics or law should know how to beat this guy. Or at least been able to stop him somehow at some point along the way. It’s almost as if they let him become president because even the people who are supposed to be opposed to him benefit from him in some way or their benefactors do.
How is it that Trump is able to so easily dance circles around lawyers and politicians and move around the law without actually breaking it?
That’s the funny part, he DOES break the law. Constantly. But the courts are stacked in his favor so they don’t give a shit. You can’t use the law to stop someone who is above the law
It also doesn’t help that the Democratic party only pays lip service to any kind of resistance
Most Americans are starting to learn for the very first time how grossly undemocratic the U.S. government actually is. People have had absolute faith in an institution that was held together by bubblegum and hope. Hell, most of what he’s doing isn’t even illegal. We just hoped that presidents would have enough tact not to abuse their privilege, and never imagined our courts could be captured as well.
Well, fuck your politicians for being useless cunts. They should have seen this coming. We all did. We knew he was gonna win and to think he of all people would respect the position he is in is ludicrous. Now I’m gonna get invaded or have my economy crashed at best.
Of course they saw this coming, and genuinely fuck the Democratic Party for being controlled opposition, but a pretty large chunk of the blame falls on the United States public who just watched as civics education in this country collapsed. An unqualified electorate electing unqualified leaders isn’t a surprise, and we spent most of the last 50 years trying to make sure the average American was as dumb and misinformed as possible. Hell, maybe if Americans were actually taught how fragile the U.S. system of government is, we’d have made serious reforms of it before now.
So how likely do you think it is the US comes back from this? Like it honestly does look like the collapse of western civilization is happening right now. Europe is almost in all out war with Russia and even if that doesn’t happen, more and more countries over there are electing the far right. America is about to invade all of its allies and even if they don’t do it, their diplomatic reputation has been completely shattered. No matter what way you look at it, this does seem like the end of western civilization. What comes after I think is already known. It will be the silicon valley take over plus whatever project 2025 is.
Oh like 0%, IMO a civil war and the collapse of the United States is the best case scenario. A third of Americans are blackshirts, a third have been yelling about the blackshirts for decades, and the other third are asking people to keep their voices down. That just isn’t a recipe for a legal reversal of what’s happening. Either a civil war happens and the fascists lose, or we’ll become like Russia without any serious opposition.
Look up curtis yarvin, Peter thiel, Marc andreeson. They along with jd Vance and elo musk all subscribe to a similar ideology which I think is what is in store for you guys. I’m hoping it doesn’t reach us here, but I’m pretty sure it will since it’s almost a guarantee that we will be annexed. Looking at moving to another continent but I don’t know which one is actually safe anymore. Maybe Australia?
In America she’d be called Fall.
I can’t believe there are no (significant) protest. They just sit there and whine.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/16/nx-s1-5297117/50501-movement-presidents-day-protests-explainer
There are active protests at every government building in every state, today. There was one on Jan 21 and Feb 5 as well. There will be more later.
There have been huge protests in every state, but the oligarch owned media isn’t covering it. They’re also refusing to run anything that may hurt the giant diaper baby.
Here’s the thing, I think most people fundamentally understand that peaceful protest isn’t going to work on the Trump administration. So, I think for a lot of USians, it’s coming down to a bunch of nervous sidelong glances at each other, trying to figure out who your allies are and when it’s finally going to be worth doing what’s needful.
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