Do some research on what is actually involved, all major medical orgs have endorsed the use of hormone blockers for trans kids to put off puberty 'til we’re legal adults who can do hormome therapy without triggering the sensitive feelings of people who think they can tell other people’s kids and doctors what to do.
I will never stop being pissed that the state of Texas suppressed this knowledge so much that I had to go through the wrong puberty in the 90’s before I learned that there was an alternative.
That doesn’t put me in the minority. I did a simple search, and the first result was a poll from 2023 stating that most adults are against it.
From what I’m reading, many health professionals can’t come to an agreement on it.
Regardless, you do you. I’m allowed to state an opinion. If you take that as “someone trying to tell you what to do,” that’s more of a “you” problem than a “me” problem.
That doesn’t put me in the minority. I did a simple search, and the first result was a poll from 2023 stating that most adults are against it.
Oh, so you aren’t concerned with the perspective of people whose entire job is to figure out what’s medically best for kids, you actually just want to know what a bunch of 6th-grade-reading-level Americans think?
You stated I was in the minority, which wasn’t true, and frankly, just because a few organizations believe it’s acceptable doesn’t speak for the entire medical community. Again, many medical professionals don’t agree. Are those medical professionals also the “6th-grade-reading-level Americans” you speak of?
You stated I was in the minority, which wasn’t true
And if the majority wanted you to jump off a cliff?
No, the only people whose opinions matter on this topic are the medical experts. Disagreeing with them puts you in the minority of Americans who refuse to trust doctors.
just because a few organizations believe it’s acceptable doesn’t speak for the entire medical community.
Correction: not just a few, literally all reputable medical organizations, including but not limited to:
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American Medical Association
American Nurses Association
American Association of Clinical Endocrinology
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Student Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
American Society for Reproductive Medicine
American Urological Association
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
The Journal of the American Medical Association
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women’s Health
National Association of Social Workers
Ohio Children’s Hospital
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Pediatrics (Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics ) and Seattle Children’s Hospital
Texas Medical Association
Texas Pediatric Society
Again, many medical professionals don’t agree. Are those medical professionals also the “6th-grade-reading-level Americans” you speak of?
You’re just mad because they’re not accepting your excuse that the ignorant masses know best. We know for a fact that’s not the case for many things. People are fucking stupid, especially when it comes to issues that don’t directly affect themselves.
Issues like this should be decided by experts who have dedicated their lives to researching these exact things, and they recommend the exact opposite.
I’m not mad or upset at all. I could not care less. I don’t know anyone that are trans, especially any children that are. It doesn’t affect me, but I still have an opposing opinion, however ignorant that may be.
There was a short period of time in the 80’s when medical professionals believed you could contract HIV from someone by simply drinking after them. My point is that medical professionals can be wrong.
Little is known about the long-term side effects of hormone or puberty blockers in children with gender dysphoria.
Research on the long-term effects on brain development and cognitive function is limited.
Research on the long-term effects on fertility and sexual function is limited.
I’ll be completely honest. I’m on the fence about all of it, but I do take an issue with our children basically being the Guinea pigs. However, I’ll concede because as I said earlier, I really do not care enough.
Give me a break on the guinea pigs shit. Folks have been using hormones to transition since the '50s. And a poster above linked to you a ton of good research on this.
Yet you still spread garbage like this under the veil of I don’t really care anyway… cool then see yourself out of the conversation and leave medical decisions to professionals and their patients.
Puberty blockers have been used to treat precocious puberty in cis kids since the '80s and gender dysphoria in trans kids since the '90s. Your “guinea pigs” argument is 45 years too late:
Yup.
Do some research on what is actually involved, all major medical orgs have endorsed the use of hormone blockers for trans kids to put off puberty 'til we’re legal adults who can do hormome therapy without triggering the sensitive feelings of people who think they can tell other people’s kids and doctors what to do.
I will never stop being pissed that the state of Texas suppressed this knowledge so much that I had to go through the wrong puberty in the 90’s before I learned that there was an alternative.
That doesn’t put me in the minority. I did a simple search, and the first result was a poll from 2023 stating that most adults are against it.
From what I’m reading, many health professionals can’t come to an agreement on it.
Regardless, you do you. I’m allowed to state an opinion. If you take that as “someone trying to tell you what to do,” that’s more of a “you” problem than a “me” problem.
Oh, so you aren’t concerned with the perspective of people whose entire job is to figure out what’s medically best for kids, you actually just want to know what a bunch of 6th-grade-reading-level Americans think?
Why?
You stated I was in the minority, which wasn’t true, and frankly, just because a few organizations believe it’s acceptable doesn’t speak for the entire medical community. Again, many medical professionals don’t agree. Are those medical professionals also the “6th-grade-reading-level Americans” you speak of?
And if the majority wanted you to jump off a cliff?
No, the only people whose opinions matter on this topic are the medical experts. Disagreeing with them puts you in the minority of Americans who refuse to trust doctors.
Correction: not just a few, literally all reputable medical organizations, including but not limited to:
American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry
American Academy of Dermatology
American Academy of Pediatrics
American Academy of Physician Assistants
American Medical Association
American Nurses Association
American Association of Clinical Endocrinology
American College Health Association
American College of Nurse-Midwives
American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
American College of Physicians
American Counseling Association
American Heart Association
American Medical Student Association
American Psychiatric Association
American Psychological Association
American Society of Plastic Surgeons
American Society for Reproductive Medicine
American Urological Association
Endocrine Society
Federation of Pediatric Organizations
GLMA: Health Professionals Advancing LGBTQ Equality
The Journal of the American Medical Association
National Association of Nurse Practitioners in Women’s Health
National Association of Social Workers
Ohio Children’s Hospital
Pediatric Endocrine Society
Pediatrics (Journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics ) and Seattle Children’s Hospital
Texas Medical Association
Texas Pediatric Society
Name one and I’ll tell you.
You win. I just don’t care enough.
I don’t want to “win”, I want you to defend your argument to the best of your ability so that I can improve my own.
So, come on! Name one doctor that thinks its unsafe for trans kids to take puberty blockers. I’m not asking for much!
You’re just mad because they’re not accepting your excuse that the ignorant masses know best. We know for a fact that’s not the case for many things. People are fucking stupid, especially when it comes to issues that don’t directly affect themselves.
Issues like this should be decided by experts who have dedicated their lives to researching these exact things, and they recommend the exact opposite.
I’m not mad or upset at all. I could not care less. I don’t know anyone that are trans, especially any children that are. It doesn’t affect me, but I still have an opposing opinion, however ignorant that may be.
There was a short period of time in the 80’s when medical professionals believed you could contract HIV from someone by simply drinking after them. My point is that medical professionals can be wrong.
I’ll be completely honest. I’m on the fence about all of it, but I do take an issue with our children basically being the Guinea pigs. However, I’ll concede because as I said earlier, I really do not care enough.
Give me a break on the guinea pigs shit. Folks have been using hormones to transition since the '50s. And a poster above linked to you a ton of good research on this.
Yet you still spread garbage like this under the veil of I don’t really care anyway… cool then see yourself out of the conversation and leave medical decisions to professionals and their patients.
Puberty blockers have been used to treat precocious puberty in cis kids since the '80s and gender dysphoria in trans kids since the '90s. Your “guinea pigs” argument is 45 years too late: