• juanclaude@lemmy.ml
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    I’m not interested in torching democrats either, but their reliance on the patience of progressives has to come back and bite them somehow. We are all watching the right move with lightning speed and wondering why the Democratic party ever convinced us the same couldn’t be done for progressive policy.

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      convinced us the same couldn’t be done for progressive policy.

      Trump is pulling blatantly illegal shit and you’re wondering why the Dems don’t do the same thing when they’re in office???

      Bonus round: It’s easy to burn things down. Any fucking moron can burn things down. It’s not easy to build things up. In fact, it’s very, very, very hard to build things.

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        That is the conundrum. Stake your claim in norms and legality while your opponent steamrolls everything to the delight of a generation of people who’ve lost all patience and you’ll always lose. How do you fight that?

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        Burn the fucking ICE down then. Or simply prosecute Trump and put him in jail.

        It’s over either way. While there may be a way out of this, it’s not going to be with the current dems, and very likely not a peaceful way either.

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          As much as the current situation is fucked, a normal country (under Dems) needs some level of ICE. So no they can’t burn down ICE. And Dems are not the judicial branch. Dems do not decide who goes to prison, the judicial branch does that. This is the same old: Dems are beholden to the truth and rules, and GOP isn’t.

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            As much as the current situation is fucked, a normal country (under Dems) needs some level of ICE. So no they can’t burn down ICE.

            Yes, we didn’t have a normal country at any point prior to March 2003, when ICE was founded.

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              See I could discuss immigration and government approaches to it over the decades (and you know a certain event that rightly or wrongly changed everything) but something tells me you’re not discussing in good faith.

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                See I could discuss immigration and government approaches to it over the decades (and you know a certain event that rightly or wrongly changed everything) but something tells me you’re not discussing in good faith.

                Yes, I’m disagreeing with you and called out your blatant lie about cannabis, so you’re just going to scream bad faith.