• MJKee9@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    But the voters are to blame. So is the DNC. Both suck…bad. Unfortunately, the majority of Americans, including their political representative, are more concerned with propping up failing capitalism than actually fixing solvable world issues. At this point, I find it impossible to envision creating enough public and political support for actual change unless the entire economic system burns down. My fear is that instead of galvanizing the working class, ian economic collapse is only going to create a vacuum to be filled by the next fascist to secure even greater control.

    If you have a practical solution, i’d love to hear it.

    • archomrade [he/him]@midwest.social
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      3 hours ago

      Lenin actually described this pattern, theorizing that “fascism is capitalism in decay.”

      There are a lot of marxists of a variety of bents who have their own theories on how to achieve a socialist state, but most of them guess that an advanced capitalist state has very little likelihood of transitioning without a revolutionary vanguard or violent class conflict.

      It’s a reason why socialist projects almost exclusively appear in pre-industrial parts of the world - but a classless communist state is only really achievable in more advanced post-industrial societies because they’d actually have the infrastructure to get to post-scarcity. So what ends up happening usually is either a protracted socialist “dictatorship of the proletariat”, or a social democratic state that is slowly undermined by austerity until it returns to a more conventional capitalist organization.

      All that to say: no, I do not think the US even meets the bare minimum of class consciousness required to avoid a fascistic collapse. The only good news is that, historically, fascist movements tend to burn out fairly quickly unless they have a competent leader. So, there’s that.

    • DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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      4 hours ago

      an economic collapse is only going to create a vacuum to be filled by the next fascist to secure even greater control.

      Unfortunately, this is usually what happens when governments/societies collapse. Lot of people on the internet talking about burning it all down and starting over, not realizing that usually just makes things worse.