Tbf there is FAR more content there, and also somehow less authoritarianism and echo chamber effect than here - like we have the modlog but they have modmail and the ability for people to continue their already started conversations on posts after removal from the sub, while here (without even a notification sent to the user) we simply have a message like “Rule 1” (which says nothing at all about why a message might have been removed…?).
If we want to attract more users, then like Bluesky, we need to do better at meeting the desires that users actually have, rather than like Mastodon simply complain why nobody wants to come here. PieFed, Mbin, and Sublinks are attempting to do that, so there’s hope, but we are still a long ways away yet.
I don’t know what the next thing after Reddit would be, but if anything fediverse wants to be that thing it needs to be prepared in advance of the next exodus.
That means developers need to work on smoother onboarding, from account creation to in-app guidance to help users find what they’re interested with as little effort as possible. On the backend, we need the ability to handle a huge influx of users. I don’t know shit about either of these things, but it’s what tech startups ALWAYS focus on to build their user base, to my knowledge.
PieFed is working on that, e.g. the Categories of Communities and Topics onboarding someone by a wizard asking what their interests are and then subscribing them to those communities, and also hashtag support helping to discover new content across Topic areas. It’s pretty neat!:-) 😎
Bluesky has a lot of momentum and no one cares about mastodon. So I do think bluesky will likely remain a fixture. But I don’t think it’s the thing that replaces reddit. It’s the thing that replaces twitter.
Wherever it is probably doesn’t exist yet. But there will always be a next thing. If there were any viable outlet for average redditors to move to currently, they would’ve done it during the protests. I also think the average person just does not give a shit about federation and getting away from centralized control. They just want to be where people are.
That, and if you need actual information from Reddit rather than just want to find a place to hang out and chat. The people who need certain content must go to wherever that is.
Even though I haven’t “used” reddit in well over a year, I still put Reddit at the end of some of my searches. It even comes up as a recommendation on Google.
Someone told me to check out the fednews where USA federal workers are discussing so many changes lately with the new administration. Bluesky had like 2-3 posts total, Lemmy had zero, and Reddit was where that entire sub was located.
So yeah, if you want the content, you go to where the people who are discussing it are. Otherwise you have to do without. Which you can’t always do.
Yeah, despite quitting reddit completely, I often find myself putting site:reddit.com at the start of my searches, especially if it’s something niche and opinionated.
Unpopular opinion: they like it there, and aren’t going to switch no matter what happens. We’ll see.
They’re far too addicted to the algorithmic brain rot to switch of their free will.
Tbf there is FAR more content there, and also somehow less authoritarianism and echo chamber effect than here - like we have the modlog but they have modmail and the ability for people to continue their already started conversations on posts after removal from the sub, while here (without even a notification sent to the user) we simply have a message like “Rule 1” (which says nothing at all about why a message might have been removed…?).
If we want to attract more users, then like Bluesky, we need to do better at meeting the desires that users actually have, rather than like Mastodon simply complain why nobody wants to come here. PieFed, Mbin, and Sublinks are attempting to do that, so there’s hope, but we are still a long ways away yet.
I would just refrain from mentioning Sublinks until there is at least a working instance with a minimal product
There will, some day, be a mass exodus away from reddit. But it’s not gonna be to lemmy.
Do you think it will be to Bluesky?
One day it could be to PieFed, or Sublinks, but everyone banned for Rule 1 from ML knows that it won’t be to “Lemmy”.
I don’t know what the next thing after Reddit would be, but if anything fediverse wants to be that thing it needs to be prepared in advance of the next exodus.
That means developers need to work on smoother onboarding, from account creation to in-app guidance to help users find what they’re interested with as little effort as possible. On the backend, we need the ability to handle a huge influx of users. I don’t know shit about either of these things, but it’s what tech startups ALWAYS focus on to build their user base, to my knowledge.
PieFed is working on that, e.g. the Categories of Communities and Topics onboarding someone by a wizard asking what their interests are and then subscribing them to those communities, and also hashtag support helping to discover new content across Topic areas. It’s pretty neat!:-) 😎
Neat!
Bluesky has a lot of momentum and no one cares about mastodon. So I do think bluesky will likely remain a fixture. But I don’t think it’s the thing that replaces reddit. It’s the thing that replaces twitter.
That indeed makes sense. So where then will all those people go?
Wherever it is probably doesn’t exist yet. But there will always be a next thing. If there were any viable outlet for average redditors to move to currently, they would’ve done it during the protests. I also think the average person just does not give a shit about federation and getting away from centralized control. They just want to be where people are.
Well I’m here to stay because fuck reddit
Yeah, ever since Apollo died, I can’t go back.
Having Voyager on Android has been a real life saver.
Same for me, but for Sync. I liked it here immediately but when the dev put out Sync for Lemmy like a month later I was so happy.
The online version of Stockholm syndrome?
That, and if you need actual information from Reddit rather than just want to find a place to hang out and chat. The people who need certain content must go to wherever that is.
Even though I haven’t “used” reddit in well over a year, I still put Reddit at the end of some of my searches. It even comes up as a recommendation on Google.
Someone told me to check out the fednews where USA federal workers are discussing so many changes lately with the new administration. Bluesky had like 2-3 posts total, Lemmy had zero, and Reddit was where that entire sub was located.
So yeah, if you want the content, you go to where the people who are discussing it are. Otherwise you have to do without. Which you can’t always do.
Yeah, despite quitting reddit completely, I often find myself putting site:reddit.com at the start of my searches, especially if it’s something niche and opinionated.