I could be corrected on this but as far as I’m aware, it’s not a caricature of Chinese people or Asian people, it’s specifically a caricature of Xi Jinping, one of the most powerful people in the world. In fact, on Forbes list in 2018, he is listed as the #1 most powerful person in the world.
So I don’t think it’s a question of race so much as a question of how far are we allowed to make fun of the most powerful people on the planet.
I’m gonna have to explain this out very simply: blackface has a long history going back more than a century before Obama was even born.
There do exist racist caricatures of Chinese people with squinty eyes. Pooh does not have the squinty eyes. Ive yet to see any evidence of Pooh being used as a racist caricature before Xi Jinping.
none of his personality resembles pooh, it’s just his race, if anything he’s ruthlessly efficient
I think you accidentally admitted the real issue: Pooh is silly, soft, and generally not that smart. Certain types of rulers need to be seen as strong, powerful, and perhaps even ruthless at all times.
The real offense is a possible degradation of his “strong man” image.
Not to split this but the real obvious parallel with Obama would be Tigger. I’m slightly surprised that didn’t come up, because it’s literally the same origin story.
Can chinese people not do racist ignorant things? I’ve known many ethnic minorities to make racist charicatures of their own race, I don’t really see your point
Well, when a Chinese person tells me it’s racist and they’re offended, I’ll stop using it. Not really interested in what some white, probably American middle-aged dude cosplaying an armchair communist for the aesthetics thinks is offensive.
I don’t need to make the assumptions to feel okay with it, the assumptions are just for fun on the side. I don’t need to justify myself to you, and you failed to make me feel bad about it in the first place.
It’s a lame joke but I don’t see why it should be banned
Because it seems like a racist charicature, no?
No. The Chinese people were specifically comparing Xi Jinping to Winnie The Pooh before the term was banned.
No it doesn’t.
We should be allowed to mock our leaders, especially the dictators
Stop making things up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship_of_Winnie-the-Pooh_in_China
This is not a mockery of his race.
This is a mockery of his fragile ego that is apparently hurt by such a joke.
I could be corrected on this but as far as I’m aware, it’s not a caricature of Chinese people or Asian people, it’s specifically a caricature of Xi Jinping, one of the most powerful people in the world. In fact, on Forbes list in 2018, he is listed as the #1 most powerful person in the world.
So I don’t think it’s a question of race so much as a question of how far are we allowed to make fun of the most powerful people on the planet.
The charicature part is strictly about his race though.
would you be fine with a blackface of obama?
the joke seems to be entirely yellow squinty eyed bear looks like him
i’m fine with forums banning racial charicatures, even of people in power
none of his personality resembles pooh, it’s just his race, if anything he’s ruthlessly efficient
I’m gonna have to explain this out very simply: blackface has a long history going back more than a century before Obama was even born.
There do exist racist caricatures of Chinese people with squinty eyes. Pooh does not have the squinty eyes. Ive yet to see any evidence of Pooh being used as a racist caricature before Xi Jinping.
I think you accidentally admitted the real issue: Pooh is silly, soft, and generally not that smart. Certain types of rulers need to be seen as strong, powerful, and perhaps even ruthless at all times.
The real offense is a possible degradation of his “strong man” image.
Not to split this but the real obvious parallel with Obama would be Tigger. I’m slightly surprised that didn’t come up, because it’s literally the same origin story.
The joke was started by the Chinese on WeChat. No, it doesn’t seem racist, unless you mean it’s racist to appropriate Chinese memes?
Can chinese people not do racist ignorant things? I’ve known many ethnic minorities to make racist charicatures of their own race, I don’t really see your point
You’re brainwahsed and should self reflect
Well, when a Chinese person tells me it’s racist and they’re offended, I’ll stop using it. Not really interested in what some white, probably American middle-aged dude cosplaying an armchair communist for the aesthetics thinks is offensive.
weird that you’re making so many assumptions about me to feel okay with something kinda bigoted.
edit: I really don’t get it… he’s a yellow squinty eyed slow stupid lazy bear
He’s yellow, you got that right. And that’s the only thing. He’s not squinty, slow, stops, or lazy. Similarly, Obama isn’t orange and bouncy.
I don’t need to make the assumptions to feel okay with it, the assumptions are just for fun on the side. I don’t need to justify myself to you, and you failed to make me feel bad about it in the first place.
Now I bet you need a hug, come here.
Life is fun when you play pretend, let me know when you want to be an adult though