This is a gutting of the scientific research establishment which has created much of American prosperity since World War II, when the US used the promise of survival and stable funding to lure academics from Germany.

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    Further confusing the situation, it is uncertain that President Trump has the authority to unilaterally halt government funds allocated by Congress. Under Constitutional separation of powers, Congress passes spending bills, and the president executes the law as it is written.

    Get fucked NYT this waffling fucking language is what enables this. It is certain he doesn’t have the authority, and not being able to say so is allowing Trump to dictate the terms of how our fucking government works.

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        That’s completely missing the point. The point is the press has been talking like this since 2015. They have given him every avenue to just pretend this is how things work. It has only gotten to this point due to this kind of waffling bullshit not willing to call a spade a spade.

        It’s not about the fact that no one is going to stop him, we haven’t even had a press that’s been willing to point out that he doesn’t have these powers for almost ten fucking years now.

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        You may be underestimating the amount of the US economy directly or indirectly impacted by a freeze like this. This is a big deal not just because it’s usurping powers, but for simple economic reasons. Lots of rich people and Republican representatives that can’t be too happy about this. They want MAGA nonsense to be distracting people so they can get big fat tax cuts, not actually be hurting their business interests.

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      It’s the Faithful Execution Clause (Article 2, Section 3, Clause 5) and he’s absolutely violating it.

      What’s the remedy though? Likely a Russian-ectomy from the GOP to actually stand up to him. Even if SCOTUS rules against Trump they have no method of enforcement. I wonder if SCOTUS should have any kind of power to impeach or even expell a President (high bar, maybe unanimous decision).

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      Get fucked NYT this waffling fucking language is what enables this. It is certain he doesn’t have the authority, and not being able to say so is allowing Trump to dictate the terms of how our fucking government works.

      Biden could have acted like this too. He would have been shot down by the courts, but there would be precedent so that trump couldn’t.

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    I wonder how bad it will get before a single Trump voter realizes what they’ve done.

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    It was just HHS a few days ago… Then it came for NSF… Then this happened

    I know the official memo claims this is “temporary” but there is literally no way this would end well. Heck there was at least one clinical trial terminated because of the “temporary” HHS pause, and this burden is on the entire country now

    I envisioned for the worst when Trump was elected… and somehow this administration has managed to exceed some of my wildest expectations

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      Thankfully a federal judge blocked this from taking affect for all open awards until Monday. This gives time for other lawsuits to be filled to block it completely, as this is entirely unconstitutional.

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        Gotta crash the economy so the rich can swoop in and collect the last of the holdputs whonstill own homes instead of rent.

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    He has absolute power unless someone steps up and says no. Regardless of its legality (hint: this is illegal), it will happen if Congress or SCOTUS does nothing to stop it.

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    Lots of my academic friends are real worried, particularly those who are paid entirely with grants…

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      It’s a fast timetable too. This isn’t a “continue on and we’ll figure things out”, it could be “don’t come to work tomorrow and good luck with rent”.

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          There are a few active discussions on Reddit/Bluesky… I think the short answer is none of us are really sure. However, I read comments saying that language from the memo seems to suggest that they would stop disbursement of funds, which would be the absolute worst case scenario (since that would straight up terminate a lot of ppl’s jobs)

          If there’s any lawyer here who can parse/interpret the original memo I’d appreciate some insights…