I mean all you’ve really done there is set up the trolley problem.
The countdown clock on the doomsday machine is ticking, you’ve got one hour until it burns the earth sterile, a pair of pliers, and the only person who knows the deactivation code strapped to a table. You’re gonna tell me you’re not pulling his toenails out because torture bad?
How about this one: You’re a doctor, you’ve got a syringe loaded with a dose of a vaccine that will grant immunity to a deadly viral disease, thing is it HURTS. It causes a burning sensation at the injection site, it’ll leave a scar like the smallpox vaccine did. Your patient is a 7 year old child. You stick that needle in her arm, and she’s gonna scream in pain, but she’ll be immune from sharkpox for the rest of her life.
V believes - at least somewhat correctly - that he’s breaking down Evey’s deep seated fears that allow the fascist government to keep her cowed. He pushes her to the point she truly believes she’s going to be killed, and that she holds some ideal more precious than her own life, that she’s willing to face death for, this will enable her to right a revolution against said fascist government. After which she thanks him. It’s as immoral as drafting soldiers for war; the question boils down to why are you in the fight at all?
I mean all you’ve really done there is set up the trolley problem.
The countdown clock on the doomsday machine is ticking, you’ve got one hour until it burns the earth sterile, a pair of pliers, and the only person who knows the deactivation code strapped to a table. You’re gonna tell me you’re not pulling his toenails out because torture bad?
How about this one: You’re a doctor, you’ve got a syringe loaded with a dose of a vaccine that will grant immunity to a deadly viral disease, thing is it HURTS. It causes a burning sensation at the injection site, it’ll leave a scar like the smallpox vaccine did. Your patient is a 7 year old child. You stick that needle in her arm, and she’s gonna scream in pain, but she’ll be immune from sharkpox for the rest of her life.
V believes - at least somewhat correctly - that he’s breaking down Evey’s deep seated fears that allow the fascist government to keep her cowed. He pushes her to the point she truly believes she’s going to be killed, and that she holds some ideal more precious than her own life, that she’s willing to face death for, this will enable her to right a revolution against said fascist government. After which she thanks him. It’s as immoral as drafting soldiers for war; the question boils down to why are you in the fight at all?
This isn’t a trolley problem because V has no clue if his methods would work. He just tortures someone.
Every hypothetical ypu list is a false equivalence as again V has no certainty that what he is doing will work.
Torture is always bad. It never gives reliable information gecause tortured people will tell you whatever you want to hear to make it stop.