• sudneo@lemm.ee
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    5 hours ago

    Yes, I am defending his ability to positively judge Trump’s pick. And I am not defending the choice of 88. I believe it’s not needed because the accusation is absurd.

    No, it’s not a crime to be a nazi in the US. I hope it is in your country.

    It actually is, but - believe it or not - people born in 88 don’t get arrested every time they add their birth date to a document.

    I believe you.

    I know you do. You would believe anything that helps you make sense of a complex world with a simple explanation: good vs evil. You are good, so anybody who disagrees with you is automatically evil. That’s it, no more wasting time understanding or thinking, straight to conclusion , always.

    As I said, you are a cultist. You are exactly the same as MAGA people, just with slightly different moral values. You think to be fighting Nazism like those people are fighting immigrants ruining their country or stuff like that.

    You are doing great buddy, now you got me, so absolutely, by any means, do not try to reflect on the fact you are projecting your culture on a Taiwanese person. Do not reflect on what’s the likelihood a normal guy, with a PhD in physics who built a great company that protects millions of people is actually a Nazi, and decides to show it because why not. Absolutely, don’t reflect on this! Sit on your absolutely simplicistic assumption, because this reinforces all your previous beliefs, and makes the world a much simpler place!

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      And I am not defending the choice of 88.

      If you say so.

      You are good, so anybody who disagrees with you is automatically evil.

      Nonsense. People of good conscience can disagree in good faith. People who praise trump and have 88 in their usernames are not people of good conscience, and I don’t think you’re defending him in good faith.

      do not try to reflect on the fact you are projecting your culture on a Taiwanese person

      They said it on an English language forum in English about an American president-elect. The account was two days old. If his judgement is that shitty here, it’s shitty everywhere.

      Do not reflect on what’s the likelihood a normal guy, with a PhD in physics

      Yeah, whoever heard of a PhD being a nazi?

      who built a great company that protects millions of people is actually a Nazi, and decides to show it because why not.

      Whoever heard of a techbro having nazi sympathies?

      Sit on your absolutely simplicistic assumption, because this reinforces all your previous beliefs, and makes the world a much simpler place!

      Nazis are shit. That’s simplistic. And true. And it offends you deeply.

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        People who praise trump and have 88 in their usernames are not people of good conscience, and I don’t think you’re defending him in good faith.

        Do you realise that this is a tautology? People who accuse people of being Nazis without concrete evidence and against much better and simpler explanation are not in good faith.

        If his judgement is that shitty here, it’s shitty everywhere.

        Or maybe he used his own judgment which is based on his own cultural background. But obviously this is unacceptable, how dares? Everyone knows that everyone should behave and say things that need to conform first and foremost to the sensibility of Americans. Only after they can express their being or their culture.

        Whoever heard of a techbro having nazi sympathies?

        He doesn’t even fit in the techbro definition. One again you just push air through your (virtual) mouth. He has a higher education (most techbro don’t), he doesn’t work with big tech (most do), he specifically ceded control of his company to a nonprofit (guess), his company inherently has a technical and political stance opposite to what tech bros did in the last 2 decades.

        Nazis are shit. That’s simplistic. And true. And it offends you deeply.

        That’s not the assumption. The assumption is that “everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi”. Everyone (most) agrees that Nazis are shit.

        Also don’t assume my thought, stick to what I say. This is once again a dishonest way to conduct a conversation and it’s borderline slander.

        Bad faith, bad faith all over the place.

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          Do you realise that this is a tautology? People who accuse people of being Nazis without concrete evidence

          I didn’t put the 88 in his username. I didn’t force him to praise trump.

          Or maybe he used his own judgment which is based on his own cultural background.

          Stop hiding behind his cultural background just because it’s convenient for you.

          Everyone knows that everyone should behave and say things that need to conform first and foremost to the sensibility of Americans.

          If he’s talking to Americans and already stuck his foot in his mouth, he should have run this through his company’s PR department before making a username with 88 in it.

          The assumption is that “everyone who disagrees with me is a Nazi”.

          That’s your deliberate mischaracterization of anyone who disagrees with nazis.

          I wonder if you can even admit that both nazis and trump are shit.

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            I didn’t put the 88 in his username. I didn’t force him to praise trump.

            JFC you have trouble even understanding a sentence. Do you know what a tautology is? I will explain to you, and I am doing this for free as a patch to what I can only assume was a bad education system.

            • The guy is X (no proof)
            • Every X is in bad faith and therefore cannot discuss with or about them.

            It’s a sentence that is always true and can’t be proven false, because that would be discussing it.

            I am not contesting he did put 88 in the username, I am contesting that it has the meaning you attribute to him arbitrarily, and based on which you draw your conclusion.

            Stop hiding behind his cultural background just because it’s convenient for you.

            Hiding? It’s a better, simpler, more logical explanation that he said himself. It’s not even needed, because a person could have million personal reasons to do that, but in this case this is it. If it’s not convenient for your reality, deal with it.

            If he’s talking to Americans and already stuck his foot in his mouth, he should have run this through his company’s PR department before making a username with 88 in it.

            This is a completely different argument. One I might agree with. But “missed ambiguous message” is different from “be a nazi”.

            That’s your deliberate mischaracterization of anyone who disagrees with nazis.

            Another tautology.

            I wonder if you can even admit that both nazis and trump are shit.

            Of course I do. My great grandmother got killed by nazis mf. Trump isolationist position on Nato can fuck Ukraine, where my wife is from, and endanger me too. Fuck your gothchas and assumptions. With love.