• MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world
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    Liberalism is literally and historically where the left begins. The right is authoritarianism and the left is liberalism to anarchism. Liberals are not leftists but it is a signof a distinct lack of education in political philosophy to claim liberalism as a right wing ideology.

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      Liberalism didn’t exist for most of history, so trying to invoke “history” to argue that liberalism has some kind of timeless and eternal claim to being on the left is unconvincing. Yes, liberalism was the left in the eighteenth century, but we’re in the twenty first century.

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        The division of political ideologies into left and right derives from the French Parliament which had the monarchists on the right and the liberals on the left.

        Every reference to right and left stems from this so yes in fact Liberalism has always been where the left starts even if liberals are nit leftists because the political left is anti-authoritarian.

        The binary has not changed and I promise you any claim ypu make to the contrary is going to be mired in euro-centric beliefs.

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      Liberalism is the ideological basis of Capitalism. When Capitalism was a progressive force, ie during the French Revolution, it was considered left wing. Now that Capitalism has become entrenched and turned to Imperialism, the progressive side is undeniably Socialism, while liberalism entrenches the status quo.

      Simply saying that liberalism at one point was progressive does not mean history has not had several centuries of shifts and developments since then.