• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    15 hours ago

    “I thought being a collaborator would foster upon me special class that would protect me and make me honorary white. That was proven wrong, and now I’m upset I’m being treated like everyone else”

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    That’s a thing I’ve noticed. Sometimes progressives try too hard while conservatives treat you like everyone else. I’ve seen people of all types think that means conservatives are fine and not bigoted. Like no, most of them aren’t going on bigoted rants to the face of the affected, but that doesn’t mean the rants don’t happen.

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    Typical conservative, ignores all the warnings and evidence until it negatively affects them. Also I bet her Trump voting grandpa believes in the caste system like almost every conservative Indian in the West. The racism is only bad when it targets them.

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    A friend of mine was raised Republican; he’d say, fiscal Republican. He was certain that people without healthcare could just get treated for free for whatever they needed and that POC brought it all on themselves. Generally, he thought that people were nice and good and would take care of each other as long as the people in need weren’t miscreants.

    Then he met a nice black girl, got married, and had some kids.

    Now he’s seeing how they’re treated differently when they’re not together, and how he’s treated differently when he’s with her.

    How family is now all at odds as the grandparents are still in the old camp and aren’t sympathetic to his findings and struggles.

    The propaganda is hard to work around. They want to believe that there’s good and evil in the world and good prevails. It’s what their churches tell them. It’s not until each one of them individually experiences hardship that they realize that something is off, and they still remain confused as to what’s real and what’s now.

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      I’ve got an old high school friend whose family migrated from Taiwan when she was a kid. She was dyed-in-the-wool “China Bad / Communism Bad” and quickly adopted the Texas brand of anti-Communist Republicanism. She got a law degree, joined the Federalist Society, started a practice in the Houston suburbs, and even made inroads within the local Republican Party as a team player.

      Then she tried to run for an open judicial seat in her neighborhood, during the Republican Primary. Instantly bombarded with crazy racist attacks. Tarred as a Chinese Communist. Smeared as a Manchurian Candidate. Received a ton of hate mail. Got blasted on in the local radio. Came in a distant third place with pretty much only her local friends and neighbors supporting her, in a crazy low-turnout election.

      Democrats came and courted her as a possible candidate on their side, because the Democrats in Fort Bend are far more plural with a big East Asian demographic (but just as “business-friendly” neoliberal). She outright rejected the offer and doubled down with the GOP. Now she’s hosting dinner parties with Dinesh D’Souz and Charlie Kirk to fund-raise for the same Trump candidates in her neighborhood that smeared her. She’s convinced her turn will come. People in the party keep insisting (quietly and in back rooms) that they do actually support her and a seat will open up for her eventually.

      Absolutely fucking crazy. I don’t understand it at all.

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        That’s the thing though, that’s how they wind up with that evil. It’s that and the idea that their discomfort is always justified

  • dalekcaan@lemm.ee
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    Liberals Warned Me About MAGA’s Racism. I Didn’t Believe Them—Until Now it affected me, personally

    A tale as old as time

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      Let’s just say that deep and systemic thinking is not a conservative voter’s strong point. Every problem is individual and can be solved individually by individuals. Nothing is real until it happens to me.

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    I’ve often thought about that moment—the unnecessary injection of racial anxiety into my otherwise normal school day—when I think about the irony of progressive identity politics. My parents, both born in India but educated in America, would laugh about their well-intentioned but misguided friends who, in their eagerness to ward off the idea of “otherness,” ended up contributing to it.

    So the people who knew the country well enough to see what was coming told you what was coming. You ignored them, your parents laughed at them.

    But then a few days ago, I opened X to see my feed populated with anti-Indian vitriol—calling the country where my parents were born “filthy” and its people “filthy and undesirable.” Some condemned these comments but many others agreed, and still others criticized the critics for crying racism. But I could see it for what it was: raw bigotry.

    Huh.

    But now, we must all reckon with an ugly part of the MAGA agenda they did not realize existed.

    Everyone who’s head wasn’t buried in the sand or laughing about “the irony of progressive politics” realized they existed.

    And so, if Trump’s win is a revolutionary moment for MAGA, the people who voted for the revolution need to define which MAGA they believe in. Does “making America great again” revive the ideals of this country—or the grievances of a group of “native-born” Americans? If MAGA chooses the latter, those on the left who were dismissed as hysterical for crying racism will be vindicated in the worst way.

    Whew, still not getting it I see. MAGA has made that choice already, and it hasn’t moved one bit during the time MAGA has existed.

    I didn’t want to fracture that pride with the news of an ugly turn in our country’s politics. How do you tell someone the country they’ve loved for 50 years is harboring a growing faction that wishes he’d never come?

    I think you can only tell them to pay attention next time and not laugh at those trying to give you a clue.

    My grandfather voted for Trump three times. Now, part of that movement is calling immigrants like him ‘filthy.’

    Your grandfather empowered them and is part of the problem.

    Damn, it’s only January and my schadenfreude gland is already getting fatigued.

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      What I hate most is that part of me understands. As a queer person, I’ve had people trying too hard to be cool and it’s awkward, and I’ve had bigots treat me like just anyone else to my face. If I was a fucking moron I might come to similar conclusions to the author. But the reality is that trying too hard is a statement of genuine care and acceptance, it’s an othering one, but one that says “you belong and I’ll put in effort in an attempt to show you that.”

      I don’t call Maga racist because it’s trendy, I call it racist because I’m white and I’ve heard what they tell white people. They have a contingent that see any brown people coming into this country as stealing jobs whether those jobs are doing difficult low paid labor like agricultural work, skilled hard labor like construction, or extremely skilled labor like surgery. They don’t care they’ll claim surgeons coming in are stealing jobs from hardworking Americans even if those jobs are desperately understaffed. And they’ll probably accuse the surgeons of being rapists and gang members or terrorists or communists.

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      he is not anti immigrant he’s only anti illegal immigrant.

      You thought “they’re poisoning the blood of our nation” was talking about illegal immigrants only?

      Are you stupid or just bigoted against everyone else because you think you are too established to be thought as “other”?

      Conservatives be conservatying no matter the skin color - until they come for them.

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        Well they lie about this constantly, every republican I’ve met will tell you ‘I have nothing against immigrants’’ but all them the details. Visa programs? (Legal immigration) nope, get rid of it. Refugee programs (legal and mandated temporary) That’s the dog and cat eating black skinned ones, NO get rid of it! Amnesty seekers (our laws designate and protect them, not every other country, legal) nope that’s the caravan of criminals roving free all across the boarder raping white women, kill em all. ‘Chain migration’ literally legal immigration, the majorly of legal spots to immigrate come from this and it takes UP TO 20 YEARS to get citizenship. Nope we don’t need more fucking mesicans end it! There is literally no form of legal immigration they don’t HEAVILY attack and hate.

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      India has its own problems with class/caste and the language that surrounds it. Officially it’s no longer in play, but there are knock-on effects.

      “filthy and undesirable.”

      This already means something in the old caste system, specifically about the lowest “backwards caste” people (“untouchables”). Not to say that everyone involved has old-world bigotry in their hearts, but for those that do, this is likely an especially cutting insult.

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    Apparently the writer has barely paid any attention to what’s been going on over the last 10 years…

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      They were, this is classic “It’s not racism until they’re racist against me” development. It wasn’t racist when it was against only Mexicans/blacks tho.

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        This was my take as well. They only realized the MAGA folks were racist when they called Indians filthy.

        When they were calling mexicans rapists and murders 😴

        When they said africa was full of shithole countries 😴

        I could go on, but it is kinda exhausting. Coming up next is the working class people when they start getting called white trash. Its coming once they consolidate enough power and dont need them anymore.

    • Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The right being poorly educated isn’t a quip; it’s a designation. One they can neither accept nor escape.

  • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.world
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    Her turning point:

    But then a few days ago, I opened X to see my feed populated with anti-Indian vitriol—calling the country where my parents were born “filthy” and its people “filthy and undesirable.” Some condemned these comments but many others agreed, and still others criticized the critics for crying racism. But I could see it for what it was: raw bigotry.

    Same old story:

    My life is filled with immigrants from India and Nigeria and Lebanon and the Dominican Republic—many of whom are definitionally the “working class”—who voted for Trump. They are family members and neighbors, cafe owners who greet me by name, doctors, cleaning ladies, the mailman, my Cape Verdean babysitter-turned-friend of many years. All of them opposed illegal immigration while defending Trump from critics: “He’s not anti-legal immigration, he’s anti-illegal immigration,” they’d said. “I’m pro-legal immigration—make it easier to do it the lawful way,” they’d say.

    I will never understand how people can’t see it’s thinly veiled racism when it comes from the GOP.

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      It’s more than that, though. It’s broadcasting that the writer is also a racist xenophobe because they didn’t care until it affected their specific racial demographic.

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    Whaaaaaat? You mean the bigotry and vitriol of the GOP isn’t limited to Mexicans, Hatians, Chinese, Guatemalans, Columbians, Cubans, Women, Gays, Transgender, Liberals, Muslims, Jews, Palestinians, Athiests, Americans wanting affordable healthcare, Americans wanting a living wage, Americans wanting affordable housing, Americans wanting renewable clean energy, Americans wanting a clean environment, immigrants, healthcare workers fighting a global pandemic, journalists, hecklers, and generally anybody who does not vote Republican?

    Please add any groups that I forgot.

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      Communists, socialists, the educated, the poor, the homeless, vegetarians, people with hair coloring (except blond)

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        I’m grey haired, and definitely feel very threatened by Trump’s incoming presidency.

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      Don’t forget military veterans, especially the ones that got captured and tortured, or sick or disabled as a result of their service. There’s also treating Puerto Ricans like they’re not part of the US.

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        I mean, they’re a colony, so unfortunately until they get the opportunity to free themselves/be part of the USA proper, Puerto Ricans are by definitions sub-citizens. Have the dems ever expressed the desire to change that even?

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      Hrm what did you miss…

      At this point, basically all academics and scientists of pretty much any field who are not connected to a conservative think tank or corporate astroturf advocacy group…

      Teachers…

      Black Americans…

      The Homeless…

      Anyone that wants to watch porn…

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    How do you tell someone the country they’ve loved for 50 years is harboring a growing faction that wishes he’d never come?

    I think these three words in this sentence says a lot about the author. My guess is they felt that America didn’t really have a racist population or felt it was small? When in reality it’s always been quite large but mostly quite. Where now this population doesn’t need to whisper anymore and they are seeing it for the first time.