Murder involves taking action IMO, denying payments is barely an action and perhaps even reduces the number of actions (depending on if it takes more steps to approve payment).
Bullshit. Inaction is still an action, and intentionally not providing life saving care is morally indistinguishable from killing them yourself when you have the means and ability to do so.
The people that are paid for life saving care are doctors and nurses, themselves paid by the hospitals (or independent practice) which can be paid by insurance, Medicare/Medicaid, or out of pocket.
Good job, buddy! You’re getting it! Now just go one step further and think about what it means to pay for insurance. How does that change who pays the doctors and nurses out of those three options? You’re so close!
the degree of separation matters in my opinion, technically the insurance cannot prevent a patient from accessing healthcare, (in practice few have the money to pay out of pocket or fight a lawsuit with megacorps) health insurance never was about healthcare it’s about insurance against costs associated with it.
It doesn’t though. Whether they physically block you from getting care or put up financial blocks that they know will do the same, the outcome is the same and these layers of abstraction exist to make people like you ok with social murder.
The fact that your argument is based around it being somehow not murder when they implement policies they know will lead to death by not doing their one fucking job makes me so fucking sad.
And yet when they don’t cover “the costs associated with it”, you’d still defend these insurance companies because it wasn’t their responsibility to provide healthcare in the first place, right?
Hard to believe you’re a real person expressing these statements, no good faith in your positions… What are you, man? Who the fuck are you even fighting for?
Bullshit. Inaction is still an action, and intentionally not providing life saving care is morally indistinguishable from killing them yourself when you have the means and ability to do so.
Especially to people who SPECIFICALLY paid you to provide life-saving care.
The people that are paid for life saving care are doctors and nurses, themselves paid by the hospitals (or independent practice) which can be paid by insurance, Medicare/Medicaid, or out of pocket.
Good job, buddy! You’re getting it! Now just go one step further and think about what it means to pay for insurance. How does that change who pays the doctors and nurses out of those three options? You’re so close!
the degree of separation matters in my opinion, technically the insurance cannot prevent a patient from accessing healthcare, (in practice few have the money to pay out of pocket or fight a lawsuit with megacorps) health insurance never was about healthcare it’s about insurance against costs associated with it.
It doesn’t though. Whether they physically block you from getting care or put up financial blocks that they know will do the same, the outcome is the same and these layers of abstraction exist to make people like you ok with social murder.
The fact that your argument is based around it being somehow not murder when they implement policies they know will lead to death by not doing their one fucking job makes me so fucking sad.
And yet when they don’t cover “the costs associated with it”, you’d still defend these insurance companies because it wasn’t their responsibility to provide healthcare in the first place, right?
Hard to believe you’re a real person expressing these statements, no good faith in your positions… What are you, man? Who the fuck are you even fighting for?