They/them is grammatically correct for singular nouns, but maybe it’s best to just use neopronouns in the case of someone (like this lady who is opposed to using someone’s correct pronouns) being difficult. But I feel people who want to be difficult are going to be difficult for whatever reason, and it’s not about the pronouns or grammar at that point.
I like the idea of inventing new pronouns, but most of the suggestions so far (like “Xe”) are too silly to be taken seriously. “They/them” can come off as impersonal at times, but we seem to be more or less settling on that, so whatever.
every new word sounds silly at first, that’s why every generation makes fun of the kids’ slang. hell, remember when “yeet” was new? it sounded so silly and stupid, but it’s just another part of the lexicon now.
my point still stands, the more a word is in use the less “silly” it sounds. if you shoot everything down as sounding “too silly” then nothing will ever rise to that bar and become “acceptable” enough to use. you’re basically going “i think neopronouns are silly and we shouldn’t use them” with extra steps.
But it shouldn’t though? In a reasonable society, using neopronouns isn’t any different than using someone’s name. Yeah, I acknowledge that society isn’t reasonable some times.
Shouldn’t means nothing. People shouldn’t own other people and yet gestures broadly at history
Calling someone what they want to be called is just being decent. Like your name is Thomas but you’d like to be called Tommy. Neopronouns aren’t names, they’re an attempt to force speech to fit the unique desires of the person demanding use of said neopronouns. Using they/them is a perfectly reasonable compromise.
ugh but i see your edit now and it fixed things! genuinely i think you were being downvoted because people misread your intent but it’s better now lol? sorry you took so much offense to that i guess
Maybe that was the goal? You can’t tell with people these days. Regardless, I don’t like someone assuming stupid shit about my morals and ethics. I know what I am about, so I’ll just continue doing that.
They/them is grammatically correct for singular nouns, but maybe it’s best to just use neopronouns in the case of someone (like this lady who is opposed to using someone’s correct pronouns) being difficult. But I feel people who want to be difficult are going to be difficult for whatever reason, and it’s not about the pronouns or grammar at that point.
For reference https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singular_they
Edit why is my comment being read uncharitably by the downvoters? Its weird behavior, I don’t get why someone would do that lol
I think neopronouns would piss off those against the concept of non-binary or trans even more.
I like the idea of inventing new pronouns, but most of the suggestions so far (like “Xe”) are too silly to be taken seriously. “They/them” can come off as impersonal at times, but we seem to be more or less settling on that, so whatever.
I’m in the too silly to be taken seriously boat. They/them works perfectly fine.
every new word sounds silly at first, that’s why every generation makes fun of the kids’ slang. hell, remember when “yeet” was new? it sounded so silly and stupid, but it’s just another part of the lexicon now.
Yeet is still silly, and spread because it’s silly. That’s not what we want for replacement pronouns.
my point still stands, the more a word is in use the less “silly” it sounds. if you shoot everything down as sounding “too silly” then nothing will ever rise to that bar and become “acceptable” enough to use. you’re basically going “i think neopronouns are silly and we shouldn’t use them” with extra steps.
Neologims get added all the time. Being silly tends to help them spread, but it’s not a requirement.
But it shouldn’t though? In a reasonable society, using neopronouns isn’t any different than using someone’s name. Yeah, I acknowledge that society isn’t reasonable some times.
Shouldn’t means nothing. People shouldn’t own other people and yet gestures broadly at history
Calling someone what they want to be called is just being decent. Like your name is Thomas but you’d like to be called Tommy. Neopronouns aren’t names, they’re an attempt to force speech to fit the unique desires of the person demanding use of said neopronouns. Using they/them is a perfectly reasonable compromise.
edit: below comment is in response to a previous version of the above comment before they clarified it was about the lady :)
ftfy :)
I think that lady isn’t asking though? She seems argumentative to me
oh you mean use neopronouns instead of they/them specifically in order to appease jeanette in the post?
sorry, i thought you meant using neopronouns in general. you might want to consider editing your comment for fuzzy language if that’s not the case. :)
No I won’t edit further, I hate the purity test I am being put through here, so I am just going to stop responding to this thread, thanks
ugh but i see your edit now and it fixed things! genuinely i think you were being downvoted because people misread your intent but it’s better now lol? sorry you took so much offense to that i guess
Maybe that was the goal? You can’t tell with people these days. Regardless, I don’t like someone assuming stupid shit about my morals and ethics. I know what I am about, so I’ll just continue doing that.
alright ur a little grumpy today and that’s okay lol. thanks for clarifying your comment even though you said you didn’t want to