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BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.world · 5 months ago

Well howdja like that?

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Well howdja like that?

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BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world to memes@lemmy.world · 5 months ago
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  • squirrel
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    5 months ago

    And that’s the difference between classical conditioning (the dogs being trained to sensory input by Pavlov) and operant conditioning (Pavlov training himself through his own behavior).

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      Also good example of “closed systems” not existing outside of theory.

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        I really wish this aspect was considered more often in pop sci discussions.

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      While it’s certainly possible that Pavlov ended up ‘doing’ operant conditioning on himself, I think something different is going on here. I think Pavlov is a victim of humanity’s language capabilities: we do not only link concepts on one direction (dogs -> bell) but do so bidirectionally (dogs <-> bell). There is a whole line of research that goes into how associations (which are the ones in classical and operant conditioning) are not the same as relations (which are the ones that we humans are proficient at, blessed with, and cursed with).

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      Wow that was a interesting wiki hole that lead me up to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extinction_(psychology)

  • ✨🫐🌷🌱🌌🌠🌌🌿🪻🥭✨@sh.itjust.works
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    neurons that fire together wire together.

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    Probably not, given that he tortured those dogs.

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      My first time hearing that

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      what did he do?

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        There’s a short summary in this article:
        IFL Science: Pavlov’s Dog Experiment Was Much More Disturbing Than You Think

        I’m not certain on the accuracy of everything it’s saying, but other sources at least seem to agree he was originally studying digestion, and cut holes in the dogs’ throats so the food would fall out when they ate.

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        Here’s a video that goes into it

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        From memory he did throw them into boiling water.

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      deleted by creator

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    In college, my friend named his dorm phone Pavlov because it had to be answered when it rang.

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    Advocating here to stop posting screenshots of Tweets. We can all do better and there are loads of other sources for content.

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      Ok, this is old though.

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