• neatchee@lemmy.world
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    20 hours ago

    This is incredibly reductive and makes us look like idiots who don’t understand “intent”.

    I get it, fuck cars, but this is ridiculous and only serves to make us look like a joke

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      Then there’s the Sacklers pushing everyone on opioids until the US public is addicted and getting fentanyl off the street. 82,000 deaths in 2022. The trend is that number is rising.

      Was it intentional that Purdue started the epidemic? Their lobbyists pushed doctors to over prescribe them including for instances that didn’t warrant them, including material bonuses. So not really, but their shareholders really like dividends even if people have to die for them.

      Was it legal? Well, it hasn’t been made illegal yet

      See, were not looking at the true evil.

      In the case of cars, its not really the driver, but in the US, the stanglehold on transit held by big automotive and big fossil fuel. We have lots of highways (the Interstate Highway System is the biggest single project in the world) and they keep killing high speed trains and begrudge municipal transit, and parking requirements assure that every city is a sprawl of delineated asphalt.

      There’s the evil. And since its propelling the climate crisis (and we’re running out of water) it is going to kill us all.

      Too bad they threw billions at the far-right propaganda machine to push the fascist autocrat over the non-white non-male that wanted to transition to renewables.

      Guns are pushed in the US, and kept fairly unregulated by the munitions companies. Their ads imply you can’t be a real man without a loaded firearm. I never got it, but everyone male on the far-right is super sensitive about their masculinity. And they really like guns.

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      14 hours ago

      I’m sure that kid in Texas totally didn’t have intent when he ran over 12 people then backed up over them again

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        13 hours ago

        And did that kid get off with a “oopsies!”? No? Then how is that related to this thread?

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      19 hours ago

      “Oops, my foot slipped on the wrong pedal.”

      Intent without confessions and manifestos may not be that easy to prove.

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        Recklessness generally also works in place of intentionally. Negligence is even lower, but is often reserved for civil suits.

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        They’re not comparable.

        If I’m at a firing range, where it is expected that people are carrying guns and ammunition, I can pull the same “oops, my finger slipped” excuse.

        Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can’t claim “my foot slipped”.

        Seriously, stop with the mental gymnastics. We don’t need to reach for more reasons to say “fuck cars.” There are plenty within arms reach

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          Similarly, if I drive my car around the side of your house and into your back yard to run you over, I can’t claim “my foot slipped”.

          I see one of those posts with cars crashed into houses every week somewhere. No murder charge.

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          You are the one doing mental gymnastics bro. What is that back yard comparison? Obviously you just swerve off the road, run him over and say you fell asleep - long day, had to work long hours to pay off my medical debt. Or have an old person run over CEOs, 80yo in cars kill people all the time because they should not be driving anymore. They always get off easy.

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          Well, we shouldn’t build our cities around hundreds miles of firing ranges then, right?