• SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world
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    “Woke” has had many meanings over the years. Originally it was used as “watch out for racist police” in the black community.

    Then it was picked up by right wing people, and it was given the meaning of “anti-racism” and being woke was being against racism. Being against woke became a way to say anti-anti-racism, so being pro-racism without explicitly saying so.

    After that, more meaning was tacked on. It started being used for all kinds of LGBTQ+ stuff. Then it was also associated with anything leftist and eventually landed on “anything I don’t like”.

    So yeah, it can now just as well being redefined as human rights, as right now anti-woke is just repressing other people’s rights.

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      Spot on. It’s a placeholder word for whatever vile shit they don’t want to say out loud. Same as DEI, which seems to be taking over more and more.

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      More than that it also gets to be about things outside of rights, like representation in media. They slap that shit on everything that acknowledges that someone who isn’t a very specific kind of person might exist. It’s not technically a right to have, say, a black super hero so they’re “able” to dodge around the entire human rights discussion to continue being just reall fuckin’ awful.

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    Regardless of the original message, reposting a screenshot with “yup” is a shitty tweet & Musk behavior.

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    I’m here rallying against the other woke agenda.

    How dare people expect me to have less than 12 hours of sleep?! Have they seen my bed? Have they felt it?? Most certainly not!
    Eat a brownie and have a nap! The man has no jurisdiction under these comfy covers!!!

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      Unfortunately I just can’t relate to this. I got a new mattress, which is great, but now my pillows are ever so slightly too short or too soft. Do you have any recommendations?

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        Try a knockoff 2-pack of my pillow.

        You can adjust the loft, both through adding/removing fill and smooshing it up in different ways, and they are pretty damned stiff.

        I had a regular chunk-memory-foam and loved that… these are somehow much stiffer… they have a mix of poly fill and the dense memory foam chunks… I find them unusable, because soft is my jam.

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        I’m afraid I cannot be of help, you see I had the same issue. My current pillow was obtained after years of searching, from perhaps thousands, if not billions of pillows tested.
        I know not of its name, nor origins. It satisfies me, though I often wonder what would happen once this pillow meets the same fate as the others. Tagless, innards squished to where they shall expand no more… I would like to say this keeps me up at night, though it’s a decent pillow. Good luck on your quest.

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    I don’t necessarily have anything against human rights, but which rights, and for whom? Who decides, and then who enforces those rights? Rights are kind of meaningless without enforcement, and for that you need a state. In that regard, the rights that exist and are enforced, and for whom, depends primarily on who controls the state. That’s fine if the people who control the state share your ideas about which rights get priority, but it sucks if you and the state disagree.

    Edit: I think this video essay explains it much better.

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      If you don’t know by now then I doubt you have anything productive to say on the matter.

      Regardless: It is a term most often used when a piece of media acknowledges the existence of someone who isn’t a straight, white, able-bodied male. A woman main character? A gay character? A black person? Someone with even a little autism who we aren’t just calling “quirky” but actually admitting it this time? And if a transperson is within a mile of the thing there are far too many people who will shit their pants in rage. The opposite of woke is all the effort to force the destruction of media that does these things. It’s the effort to ban books, deny people care, and to simply just treat different people as people. The “anti-woke” are mad that those different from them have the gall to exist.

      You can try to ramble it away as some deep philosophical connundrum but it’s just not that complicated.

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        All I’m saying is: if you really feel strongly about defending and enforcing the human rights of the historically marginalized groups you’ve mentioned, you will need to fight very, very hard to acquire and accrue as much power as possible to do it. It will probably require a fairly significant, prolonged, organized, possibly violent movement.

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    part of my woke agenda is actually to obsolesce the language of “rights”, as I believe it is a flawed notion. instead, I advocate for equality and freedom.

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      That’s right. The not getting it part. When those sort of things are said in that context and they don’t make any sense, it’s because the person making the claim is doing it in bad faith.

      Changing it to human rights allows it to be easily exposed.

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    part of my woke agenda is actually to obsolesce the language of “rights”, as I believe it is a flawed notion. instead, I advocate for equality and freedom.

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          Show me an atom of equality, or a molecule of freedom. They don’t exist in the universe. Just like rights, they are a lie made true by our common belief in them.

          The idea of Rights is embedded in society. That embedding has a lot of value. It stops people riding roughshod over them.

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            you can observe equality. you can see whether people are treated equally.

            rights are routinely ignored or revoked.

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          so you can observe the freedom in same sex marriages, but you can’t observe the right to be in a same sex marriage? I don’t follow, it’s the same thing.

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              If it’s a right encoded in law, you can see it written down in the text of the relevant law. Freedom is no less abstract than rights.

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                  You can observe someone exercising their freedom exactly as much as you can observe someone exercising their rights. What you can’t see is a freedom written down, unless it’s in the form of legal rights. Laws don’t protect freedoms any more than they protect rights. You like the word freedom, you don’t like the word right. They’re both abstract concepts.