Illustration of overlapping browser windows with Ecosia’s logo, a tree graphic, Firefox’s logo, and the text “Together for a better web,” alongside a search bar with a green cursor.
Your tech choices matter more than ever. That’s why at Mozilla, we believe in empowering users to make informed decisions that align with their values. In that spirit, we’re excited to announce our partnership with Ecosia, a search engine that prioritizes sustainability, and social impact.
Did you know you could choose the search engine of your choice right from your Firefox URL bar? Whether you prioritize privacy, climate protection, or simply want a search experience tailored to your preferences, we’ve got you covered.
Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns. Every search made through the search engine contributes to tree-planting projects worldwide, helping to combat deforestation and regenerate the planet. Ecosia planted over 215 million trees, across the planet biodiversity hotspots, making a tangible difference in the fight against climate change. Just like Mozilla, they are committed to creating a better internet, and world, for everyone.
Together, Mozilla, Firefox and Ecosia are contributing to a web that is more open and inclusive, but above all — one where you can make an informed choice about what tech you use and why. Your tech choices make a difference.
As Firefox and Mozilla continue to champion user empowerment and innovation, we invite you to join us in shaping a web that makes the world better. Together, let’s make a positive impact — one search at a time.
Whether you prioritize privacy*, climate protection, or simply want a search experience tailored to your preferences, we’ve got you covered.
Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns…
Together, Mozilla, Firefox and Ecosia are contributing to a web that is more open and inclusive, but above all — one where you can make an informed choice about what tech you use and why. Your tech choices make a difference.
Someone should tell Mozilla about the AI-sized environmental concern in their browser?
* ETA: Ecosia doesn’t mention privacy as a feature anywhere on its homepage. (I’m not counting the link to its unimpressive privacy policy.) They call themselves “Google, but greener”, and I believe them.
In that sentence, they’re not referring to Ecosia specifically. Rather, they’re implying that you can choose a search engine which aligns to that value. A little weird to include it with no examples, in a post specifically about Ecosia, but I believe that’s the intent.
To wit, the very next sentence sure does seem to say that Ecosia is private.
Ecosia goes beyond data protection by addressing environmental concerns.
Someone should tell Mozilla about the AI-sized environmental concern in their browser?
It’s called offset /s
Mozilla is on a great tear. Layoffs, pointless rebrand, and now a shit privacy greenwashing search engine partnership. I’m so excited for the future of Firefox.
Aren’t we all?! /s
Indeed.
Which pointless rebrand? I actually like “moz://a”.
Yea, but they changed to a weird flag thing (?) and a boring font logo:
At least they got this guy:
Oh well, at least the error animals are foxes and not a really weirdly drawn dinosaur
So… what does this partnership actually mean? Will Ecosia be the default search engine once the deal with Google ends?
Ecosia, the “green” search engine with AI chat. Perfect match for Firefox, the browser ever more integrated with AI technology.
I’ve just given up on Mozilla, using Cromite after a decade of Firefox/Fennec on desktop and mobile had been such an upgrade.
“Ecosia Chat is powered by OpenAI”
ffs
Even the worst default browser on the worst cheap China phone from the worst grey market is an upgrade to mobile Firefox. This is just a dumpster fire since release and Mozilla never cared about it even one single bit. You cannot even set a homepage in this junkware excuse for a browser.
What exactly is the issue you have with Mozillas AI efforts? They use the technology in a private and sensible way as far as I can tell. Maybe I missed something they did.
You missed their AI sidebar feature, which only feeds your data to corporations by default. Or their Orbit extension, which ditto. (The latter also points to the Mozilla FakeSpot privacy policy, which is clear about selling your browsing and location data to advertisers. No, I’m not joking. It’s not clear whether Orbit is FakeSpot adjacent…)
Fakespot itself is an AI powered Mozilla subsidiary that has a history dabbling with NFTs.
Mozilla has even dumped money into Hugging Face (a company that’s been given hundreds of millions from other corpos like Salesforce and Nvidia).
Oh great, shitty bing search results with tree NFTs.
oh no, don’t take away Google results that fill the entire screen with ads and irrelevant bullshit that relies my stolen data before my actual search terms!
Ecosia being any better in this regard would be news to me. They also rely on ads for funding.
As if Google’s results haven’t been getting worse
Oh they’ve been getting worse for sure but Bing is still worse. I’ve used the Bing index via DuckDuckGo for years and it’s quite bad.
I now use Kagi which uses both Google and Bing indices (among others) and it’s much better and I think most of that is because the Google index is used.
I keep hearing about Kagi, maybe I should try it sometime.
DDG has been quite serviceable to me, however. If I can’t find something I can just add a quick
!gto my already existing query and look it up on Google instead, which I’ve found rather convenient.If I can’t find something I can just add a quick
!gto my already existing query and look it up on Google instead, which I’ve found rather convenient.Yeah I used to do the same (but with
!s).It’s much more convenient to just have good search results to begin with though. Kagi uses the Google index and a few others and you have your own filtering and ranking on top.
In the beginning I felt tempted to do
!sa few times too but the results were always worse, so I quickly unlearned doing that.Executing bangs is also a lot quicker with Kagi; DDG is kind of a slog.
but with
!sIs that built-in, or do you have to configure it yourself? Configuring one is fine, but DDG has quite a few I semi-frequently use (!i, !g, !gi, !yt, !w, !gt), even Google itself feels like a downgrade when I want to search an image and I manually have to click the ‘images’ tab after performing my query.
It’s much more convenient to just have good search results to begin with though
I agree, which is why I’ve been happy to continue using DDG.
Is that built-in, or do you have to configure it yourself
It’s the official bang for Startpage. You can’t configure custom bangs in DDG; Kagi can do that.
I agree, which is why I’ve been happy to continue using DDG.
I’ve found DDG/bing’s results to be quite lacking.
It’s the official bang for Startpage. You can’t configure custom bangs in DDG; Kagi can do that.
Oh, like so. When you said “same” I assumed you meant Google as well, and I found
!sto be an intuitive bang for that. Startpage makes more sense, I know they get their results through Google.I’ve found DDG/bing’s results to be quite lacking.
It seems our experiences have been different, then.
Wouldn’t this upset Google? (who is the biggest revenue source for Mozilla)
Mozilla will probably lose (part of or all of, it’s not clear yet) Google’s funding following their monopoly case, so it’s probably best for them to look for other revenue sources.
They could also stop all this nonsense crap projects they sink money in without any real benefit, and focus mainly on the browser. This would give the browser likely 500% more funding than it has right now.
Have one product, but make it a perfect product.
500% more funding than it has right now.
From whom?
Their financial reports are public.
I was waiting for the 2023 forms to drop.
I’m shocked to find out Mitchell Baker has taken a pay cut of ~$600,000, now struggling at a much more relatable $6.2 million instead of $6.9 million
(ETA $600,000 is also her “base” salary, the rest of the $6.2m is her “bonus.” She lost one base salary worth of bonuses last year.)
still, 6 mil is ~10% of their revenue. it’s egregious, but cutting the ceo’s sallary to zero dollars even would solve nothing
That salary could have been redistributed among the employees Mozilla laid off in the Advocacy division, especially right before they published a report claiming Mozilla needed to be known for advocacy and not Firefox. Or put towards Firefox. Or any combination.
Just removing Mitchell Baker’s bonus would already be the majority of that.
So after constantly yelling at Mozilla for 10+ years they should do all kinds of things like a VPN, now we no longer find them to experiment to find alternative money sources?
The money sources are not the issue. The money sinks are. An no-one ever yelled at Mozilla to offer a VPN.
The money sources are not the issue
lolwhat
did you miss the part where mozilla depends on mostly google money to survive? which they’ve been trying to correct for years but failed? and now they’re om the verge of losing most of it?
lolwhat
Did you miss the part where Mozilla spends most of their money for not the browser?
how much do you think chasing the web “standards” set by one of the largest companies on the planet without falling behind costs? ever wonder why nobody else has been able to keep up with chrome? also, do you think it’s not important to ensure web standards are open and having the lawyers and lobbyists to prevent web standards to go to shit? do you think the only important thing is the actual application? firefox doesn’t in a vacuum. if mozilla was just a bunch of computer nerds coding very hard to make a browser, it would’ve gone bankrupt and firefox would’ve died ages ago
i’m not even saying mozilla isn’t doing anything stupid, it’s just that it frustrates me how computer nerds always think the coding is the only thing that matters in a software project
Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money. The browser hardly does so, outside of the search engine deals.
Their other projects mostly exist, because those make money.
Except the projects that don’t make money.
Oh, that’s bad. Ecosia won’t even give them a fraction of the revenue google does… I’ve no idea how they’re going to continue going on…
I’ve been using ecosia for a few months now after ditching duck duck go after long long time .
It’s shit.
I tend to use GPT when I want to find anything.
What is the point of it?
If you are looking for a DDG alternative Searxng looks pretty good
Ist it just Google or Bing user selectable?
That’s wild!
Do you get consistently good and accurate website results with GPT?
Consistently good and verifiable. Accuracy is good but not perfect.
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