there’s more than shown here and it’s more than just these users too 😭

if you find the thread don’t piss in the popcorn (brigade) but also please maybe don’t bring it back here i don’t want 400 notifications of entry level “is almond milk milk” vegan discourse

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    The majority of male calves are killed at 18 months for meat (equivalent of about 6 in human age) once they’ve put on enough weight. “Veal” is if they’re killed under 12 months, which is rarer, but adulthood is a couple of years later, and yes, not just many of the calves, almost all of the male ones.

    Dairy cows are killed once they’ve been milked for a few years as yields start to fall and become uneconomic. They typically live for six or fewer years, but their natural lifespan would be more than 15.

    “Many” isn’t doing a lot of lifting, it’s doing a lot of understatement.

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        Under 12 months is veal, so you were correct that most don’t end up as veal.

        But they count as calves until adulthood, which is nearer age 4. They’re normally killed for meat at about 18 months or six in human years. They do continue to put on weight into adulthood, but less rapidly than in the first 18 months, so you get a better return on investment by killing them while they’re still calves, because you’ve saved half your costs but got 3/4 of the weight in meat, and the meat is more tender and marketable.

        So not quite full weight, and definitely still killed as a calf, not as an adult.

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                Says the person who has been splitting hairs for nearly 24 hours. For reference, here’s our original interaction:

                At least 50% of them are killed - very, very few males make it to adulthood.

                this is incorrect

                They’re slaughtered at 18 months, and that’s before adulthood. I was correct. You continue to work very hard to find some way to make this correct statement sound incorrect.