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    It applies to all regular citizens. Cops tell guys there’s nothing they can do about XYZ all the time.

    The only divide is class divide.

    Also, I thought that lady who used Luigi’s shell casing words also said “you’re next” which definitely adds to it

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      The only divide is class divide.

      Every time I see people say this, all I can think is that they’ve never had someone get in their face and hate them for existing as part of a group of people.

      Because there is literally a divide between bigots and non-bigots. There are plenty of dirt-poor bigots out there and “they aren’t your real enemy” is not going to convince them.

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        It’s a little chicken and egg, I think. Racist ideas were used to justify slavery, but it’s also possible that racist ideas played into the beginning of enslavement of Africans as well.

        These days, I think it’s just a matter of people become bigoted through largely osmosis, and the conservative mindset is fertile ground for bigoted messaging. Political and economic elites, then, focus on culture war bullshit because it works as an effective smokescreen to prevent the news from focusing on billionaires’ (effectively) war crimes.

        Big ol feedback loop of bigotry, unfortunately.

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        The saying isn’t trying to claim those people don’t exist, of course they do. The saying is a declaration of the truth. The truth that those people are fucking wrong and dumb for their bigoted beliefs. Because our only enemy is the .01% at the top.

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          Your only enemy is the .01% at the top.

          A lot of us have a second enemy- the bigots that want us dead. You can call them wrong and dumb for their beliefs, but they would still rather shoot me and people I love in the head than a CEO.

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            OMG I know. When I say our I mean all of the middle and lower classes which includes them stop rehashing

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              This is what you said:

              The saying is a declaration of the truth. The truth that those people are fucking wrong and dumb for their bigoted beliefs. Because our only enemy is the .01% at the top.

              Those fucking wrong and dumb people are my enemy because they want me and people I care about dead much more than any CEO. It’s that simple. You want me to team up with a Nazi to fight the people at the top. I’m telling you they’re both my enemies. Fascism does not know economic class.

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        As someone that says ‘no war but class war’ let me clarify…yes there are clearly other divides. They are distracting us to keep us divided. Many times the bigot and non-bigot ven diagrams are 2 circle on top of each other, but it’s still based in class warfare.

        Rich white went and got poor black slaves because it was cheaper than paying the local poor for work. Then the local poor hate the newly migrated people of color. It was slaves, but moved to employing underage kids for foreign countries. Either way it is still a class divide.

        The rich use the media to keep us (working class) mad at each other and blame each other for taking our jobs. The truth is the owner class stole our wealth and sold it back to us for money. We were too distracted with lies about honest work to realize the truth in time. Some of this stuff happens in cycle and they wouldn’t notice for themselves. They get stuck buying way too much because it’s too easy and they don’t realize until they own more stuff than they need.

        I know not everyone on ‘my side’ will agree with me and there are blind spots for me. I’m American, globally my quality of life is awesome and it’s on the backs of child slaves that I’m too disconnected with to feel guilty about. If you are an American and feel a certain way about your cell phone and chocolate, just know it’s not magic. A bad system that we can make better is currently in place. We take for granted because bad people employing child labor because it is cheap.

        We are still on the same side even if we don’t know it. I believe it was Warren Buffet that said

        There’s class warfare, all right, but it’s my class, the rich class, that’s making war, and we’re winning.

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      Now that I think of it, I think cops sit on the wrong side of the class divide when they’re performing their jobs, but on our side when asking for working conditions.

      Their job is to protect capital and government. Same for military.

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      yeah, she said “you people are next”, and she said it to a specific person following an obviously politically motivated assassination. Very different from some X-itter anon reposting a vague anti-abortion slogan with no real attachments to something like a high-profile assassination.

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    The class war transcends all others.

    American women need only see all the women politicians, CEOs, and doting nepo daughters perfectly comfortable with forcing poor women to take an unwanted pregnancy to term only to have their Healthcare needs denied to understand that.

    You need to be human to be in their elite sisterhood first, and your net worth means you don’t qualify. Sadly it’s all too common to hear that and try to imagine how to break into that little sociopath club rather than fight it.

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      I’m not a big fan of our style of incarceration… slave labor with the constant threat of violence from staff and fellow inmates (dependent upon which facility). But this is a guy who needs to be gone. He will never stop. He has no boundaries. And is constantly being emboldened by a system that says women aren’t allowed to ever feel safe.

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    something something ingroups outgroups

    something something protecting but not bound by it

    something something bound by it but not protected by it

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          The peaceful transfer of power in democracies is a peaceful revolution. That’s the entire point of elections, to change governments without fighting. If Trump and the Republicans manages to prevent either the 2026 or 2028 election they will have made peaceful change impossible.

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      Wait when did court systems provide justice? I thought they’ve always been a “polite” version of mob rule. (See: entire history of Spain, entire history of uk, entire history of Catholic church, history of new England, history of us / native American relations, history of us slavery, history of women’s suffrage, history of civil rights, history of abortion rights, history of gay rights, turing, history of trans rights - these are just the items in aware of)

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        Well, the point of the justice system was to make it so we didn’t have to apply mob rule ourselves. The system would apply consequences to bad actions. This was always going to be unequal, but it stopped functioning at all for the ultra-wealthy a while ago. Until it does again, it’s a sham and the protections they provided by giving an alternative are effectively gone. People need to see it working properly for all people for it to be trusted again and to protect everyone from vigilantism.

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          I’m looking for a single concrete fact that isn’t a questionable “back in the day” sentiment.

          Also the mob rule I mention is the same as your definition of bad. Edited my post to add flavor.

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    And even after they actually hurt you! Cops don’t care about protecting plebs - there’s no money in that.

    Sexual violence and misconduct are rampant in our society. The police protect the perpetrators of these crimes as much as they protect the wealthy targeted by justified vigilantes. Those who fight back against injustice perpetrated by the wealthy and powerful get harassed by the cops. The role of the police is to stop those getting screwed over by a corrupt system of gender/racial/class hierarchies from exposing their mistreatment or negotiating for more equitable arrangements.

    Our system supports those who commit sex/war crimes and punishes those who dare to be victims or who speak out about these injustices.

    And then the wealthy act surprised when the victims of sex crimes seeking justice start agitating against overmilitarization and calling for the abolition of policing. Those who are ostracized and forbidden from joining elite society are bound to find common ground with each other and unify against the tyranny we all face.

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    I agree. My opinion that communities should determine their own standards doesn’t mean that individual men should have the right to taunt or threaten the women around them. if you threaten or harass another person, you should be at least fined for that disgusting behavior.

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      I go the opposite way. Boston was charged with a terrism related charge and would not have been able to be charged pre patriot act. We need more free speech rights even if asshats abuse it because this arrest is scary as fuck.

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    Parkrose Permaculture showing up on Lemmy? Waiter, more please!

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    I think the people that tweet “your body, my choice” are not the ones that hold that belief and are merely using a provocative way to point out how fucked up those fuckers are.