NYT is as corpo as media can get. We must remember what side they are on. Journalism is dead.
I was listening to the radio this morning and the dude was saying he’d rather have CEO shootings in the news than all the school shootings. It’s not dead, it’s just hard to find a pulse.
https://www.podbean.com/ep/pb-rfj2f-1765e1f
Here I was heavily paraphrasing.
NYT has always been pro-corporate.
Wtf. Journalism is definitely not dead. We just need to stop linking to corporate news outlets.
Zateo, democracy now, the intercept, truth out, common dreams, etc. There’s loads of great media outlets out there…
Maybe we should just ban the corporate ones from this community? Or create a new community that only allows links to nonprofit news outlets?
Yeah. When people complain that the media is dead or that the narrative is controlled regardless of sources, they usually talk about the mainstream/corporate media. They don’t go their way to find alternative or “underground” sources shall we say.
Yeah I wouldn’t call any of these sites underground. If we dont know about them, blame Lemmy users and mods.
I mean, if you ask most people, they wouldn’t know what Democracy Now or Pro Public are unlike MSNBC, CNN or New York Times. These news outlets rarely get more coverage or mentions because it is by intention.
Again, if that’s the case then we have nobody to blame but ourselves. We’re on a link sharing site ffs. We post the links and we make the rules for which sites are allowed.
I do my part to report people who just post screenshots of articles and downvoting links to corporate news sites with pro-corporate narratives, but we all must do our part. And the mods need to do their job too.
I’m talking about in general. Doesn’t matter if it’s on Lemmy or Reddit, people don’t know about the news outlets you and I mentioned.
Law/justice is also dead, especially as folks stop believing in any piece of state evidence.
Two seconds later it could be you or me who are picked up and demonized for random stuff.
Truthfully this is my image state power. They make shiat up 100% of the time. So it’s not a question of is it true or not. It’s a question of how they are lying. Like a puzzle to be solved or exposed for the entertainment, but even that eventually grows old. Oh a cop MSM or a politician corpo said it … pfft!
Citizens don’t believe anything out of the State or Media. Obviously not a healthy situation when everyone is considered an actor.
The NYT is at least partly responsible for the Iraq war 2. Fuck them.
Corporate media is going to protect their advertisers by shotgunning bullshit articles trying to change the narrative
“For the love of God, please stop looking up!” —Corporate Media
The classic scapegoats aren’t there this time. Can’t blame him being the wrong race, wrong economic class, wrong mentally, wrong physically, or wrong sexually. Now people are actually looking at the issue that caused the “crime” and that’s not good to some people.
Pretty successful and well off kid, definitely not just someone desperate and broke they can tear apart, and he’s articulating his position against these fuckers. It’s really beautiful. A folk hero.
Not a criminal until a guilty verdict…
It’s also not a crime to eradicate a parasite.
I mean it’s a “crime” technically but that doesn’t mean we can’t nullify it!
Yes breaking the law is a “crime” but to be a criminal you need to have the verdict saying you committed it. Innocent until proven and all. A “not guilty” or null result means not a criminal.
If Biden and Trump can decide the law does not apply to certain people, then so can you.
The law only applies where and when it is enforced.
Guilty’s meaning depends on whose the listener
That you present the set of possible states of guilty poorly aside, are assuming everyone shares your POV.
I can present your bullshit more clearly. So lets do that
For someone to be labeled a criminal they must have been convicted in a court of law by their peers and all avenues of appeals have been exhausted. This is the only situation where the word criminal can be used by anyone besides paid liers and illusionists.
No it’s a poor journalistic standard to cast guilt before trial. If some random person was saying it who cares. This is a large public facing news entity though.
They demonize perps every single day. To the point it’s comical. Finding an exception is rare.
Got to the point, where i refuse to believe anything the media or the State says. Anything. If they said the sky is blue i’d ask for the unittests (wouldn’t believe them)
They lost the narrative forever. Which is another way of saying they aren’t ruling by the Will of the people. Incapable of presenting themselves in a believable manner.
In terms of narrative, have to agree.
Not a crime against society, so possibly not a crime.
The word, crime, is subjective. Much like the word, value.
Really what is wanted is play court and feel special.
Except in texas
Lest we forget, “He needed killin’” was a successful defense against a murder charge in Texas, once upon a time.
I mean i agree ethically and morally. I was just commenting on NYT not understanding how laws work.
Depends on how it’s eradicated.
If the actual assassin, not the patsy, really wanted to make sure. He might be capable of making really really sure.
Dropping a tank on it or destroying a city block might not be beyond his pay grade.
A BB gun is not making sure. Just a bit cleaner and quieter.
Thank you!
Being neutral cute both ways, he is innocent until a jury of his peers decide to vote guilty.
Just hope he doesn’t sign a confession, there is plenty of resources for him to fight this.
Also, I think all people charged with a crime deserve this benefit or the doubt.
There’s that word again
What peers?
The rando software dev is a genius being extradited to a State full of boot lickers and sell outs.
His peers are minimally accomplished well known FOSS devs.
There should be a higher burden of evidence which includes reproducible unittests and his peers should be well acquainted with writing maintainable and sufficient test suites.
Then lets talk about peers and courts.
Guilty until proven innocent is nonsense. We are beyond that already.
Just a patsy
Using the term criminal is just demonizing a random guy.
The State and it’s officers are just illusionists. They can’t present evidence or be witnesses. Cuz they are unbelievable.
So far that is all they got. So when anyone uses the term criminal, i jump straight to innocent and civil suit
It couldn’t be because we’ve been starved of seeing anything resembling actual justice could it?
Horrible people do horrible things and have been getting away with it since before I was born. No wonder people are reacting the way they are.
Being handsome doesn’t hurt, but people like him for what he did. He could be a hunchback and there’d be supportive quasimodo memes I’m sure.
No matter what the topic, you can always count on the NYT for a shitty take. The NYT has a very distinctive flavor of editorial shittiness that’s quite hard to define but instantly recognizable. They want us to catch their carefully curated blind spots.
I used to read it a lot because it had good arts and literary sections back when actual papers were a thing. Reading the Sunday Times with a cup of coffee on Sunday in my bathrobe was a pleasure. Now they just specialize in these garbage takes.
Top recommended on my feed was NYT article headlined “largest immigration surge in US History” under Biden. That was their top number one story today. Suggested both that it was a key factor in Harris loss and that it has already ended because of Trump election
The greatest trick the Times ever pulled was convincing the world it had a left-leaning bias[1].
Pro-war on all the wrong sides (Germany in WWII, US in Iraq, Israel at any time), Jewish owned but somehow simultaneously against Jews, especially if poor and foreign.
Their Berlin correspondent wrote about how Hitler was no danger to German Jewry while it was already well documented how terrible they were being treated in 1939.
Absolutely fucking monstrous rag.
The pro-slavery New York Times?
Because the arts and literary sections and the magazine were actually quite decent so it gave that impression.
Noam Chomsky talked about how self-serving it is to the powerful to portray the mainstream media as left-leaning. If people think that the NYT is pushing left, then anything further left of that is seen as being so far off that it must be uttered by loony radicals who spend 17 hrs a day buried in leftist theory.
Ironically, the GOP has bought it now that they coronated Trump?
It’s a bit amusing that all the white and not so white lies are now actual belief amongst the leadership. Maybe they’ll end up deconstructing them…
Anything to distract from the class war.
His crime is one of the reasons we find him attractive. It’s not being overshadowed it’s being celebrated.
Tens of millions of lives ruined by “just good business” is the headline.
Stop worshipping profit or everything will get worse, even if there are no violent responses.
Everybody talking about anything else in this case is lying by omission.
Post links to articles, not screenshots of articles. Downvoted and reported.
+1
Or at least an archive link.
At least it’s Bluesky, not Twitter?
reported
What rule did they break? I don’t see that posted.
Low effort, abelism, misinformation.
These are lemmy-wide. Its normal lemmyquite.
How is this ableist? What misinformation?
Hey NYT. Suck it.
cia media gonna cia
Not Antiwork for me, but a great post.
I can’t find a better community for this, sorry. I just want left leaning people to know what bullshit they’re pulling.
You could post it to US News, or the Socialism/Communism communities.
Thank you
Honestly i feel like most of lemmy is left-leaning at least from what i’ve seen
Probably so.
I mean this is nothing new. Pretty white women have been treated favourably in court and by the public forever. There is a somewhat popular twitter account all about hot criminals. It’s a thing and it always has been.
