I’ve seen people comparing the DOJ response to Luigi Mangioni and Kyle Shittenhouse. The fact that Rittenhouse is free should tell you everything you need to know.
Well the difference is that while both actively premeditated their murders whoever committed the crimes Mangioni has been accused of is far more of a menace because they had a specific target in mind and even worse it was someone rich instead of just anyone protesting the police tendency to murder.
Rittenhouse attacked 3 people, that’s 3x the danger. But I guess I forgot to count up their net worths.
Rittenhouse didn’t premediate his shooting though? Where do you guys get your information about this?
He deliberately brandished a weapon to incite bystanders to try to defend themselves so he could kill them and call it self defense.
You don’t straw buy an AR then pick it up and cross state lines with it going to a known chaotic protest without premeditated “self defence”.
He absolutely did though, the whole point was he wanted to get into a fight be “forced” to defend himself.
I never saw evidence for this claim. Do you have any?
He was literally filmed that night watching Antifa Members leave a CVS, where he said “If only I had my gun on me right now”
He was also in an interview with a militia group bragging about “Never using non-lethal”
He also had various facebook posts where he talked about wanting to kill.
He also had a history of schoolyard violence against young girls.
These were disallowed from being admitted as evidence by the judge who claimed these were “irrelevant”, even though they clearly paint a motive.
There’s also the fact that you don’t travel across state lines with an illegal weapon because you love somebody else’s property that much. He had claimed he had been “Hired to protect a dealership” and that he was “Only there to provide medical assistance with the gun being purely for protection”, at one point he’d even been asked to leave by police who only allowed him to stay because he lied about being a “Trained EMT”
Which resulted in the (often played out of context) clip of the police saying “We appreciate you guys, we really do!” as they gave him bottles of water. (Yet no charges for lying to law enforcement, self-misrepresentation, or “Stolen Valor”, curious)
The fact that he wore gloves at all times while handling the weapon also shows he intended to use it for criminal purposes and took steps to hide his fingerprints.
The evidence of pre-mediation is overwhelming, had the Judge not been a MAGA-Plant and the Prosecution not been incompetent “DID THE VIDEO GAMES MAKE YOU DO IT KYLE?!!?!”
It’s pretty obvious how this would have gone
A stark reminder of who the justice system works for. They are there to protect the rich elites.
I hate my race so fucking much. Orcs with privileges
What race is that?
Honestly I just funnel my hair towards the rich since they are the ones who built and maintain the system.
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This shit right here is how elections get lost.
Go to Africa and you’ll see the same thing from Black people while using white people as an excuse for looting the country through corruption and placing their own people in poverty.
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It’s power not skin color. I get it, it’s uncomfortable seeing how people who look like us plundered the world and have caused untold suffering while propping up those of us who look similar. And I don’t begrudge the oppressed the right to be angry at the whole of the privileged group. But as white people we don’t help by hating white people, we help by working to right the wrongs that gave us this privilege and by striving for a fair, just, and equal society.
Why don’t we just hate all the races? Oh wait, corruption has very little to do with race and everything to do with capitalistic greed,
yes that is mostly true but there are some places that have segregated and treated other fellow humans (even the same skin color)differently in a classism system. Rwanda is good example even before Germany or Belgium went there and made it worse.
Sure, but at some point you have to take responsibility for your own actions. Blaming the past for current ruin and corruption is a tool of the corrupt.
When a fraudster who tried to overthrow democracy and rightfully convicted of 34 felonies, still gets reelected as president, it is evident that there is no justice anymore.
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You reminded me of something I read from back around when that bloke got elected, regarding amongst other things, the decline in the rule of law mattering to society…
"The greatness of Rome, brilliant with repeated marks of prosperity, has gradually faded… the ancient glory of military prowess and valour has almost passed away… by the growth of wealth and luxury.
The Roman world is falling: yet we concern ourselves with trifles… We heap up riches that perish and bury our gold in the earth as if we were piling up treasures in a lifetime of prosperity.
Rome was great and could tolerate its own vices as long as they were held in check by some degree of virtue; but when our hands ceased to uphold the laws, when avarice and luxury sapped the nation’s strength, the state itself lost control and went its way.
The finest men were shut out from office by the lowest dregs of society, who, having won the favour of the mob by base means, ventured to grasp at the highest offices.
The greater her glory, the more incredible it seems that she has been brought so low.
Empires are mortal. Rome has perished. Though she was built upon such firm foundations, Rome has sunk by her own weight."
- Ammianus Marcellinus, Eusebius Sophronius Hieronymus, Tacitus, Aurelius Ambrosius, Aurelius Augustinus Hipponensis. 56 - 430 AD.
Rome fell before he was born
Can you indicate which author is associated with which portion of your quoted text? I’m looking to verify the provenance of these statements. Thank you.
Alas no, I saw this a while back and saved it. I believe they’re mostly a mix of direct quotes (or as much as one can be given they weren’t speaking English), and a lot of summations from their published works. So rather than reading a whole book, you get a few sentences carrying their main points.
At least that’s what I recall :-)
My suggestion would be to look in to the authors, find their relevant works and give them a read, that’ll give you the same thoughts and opinions but with way more detail :-D
Yet the Roman Empire survived and thrived for about a millennium afterwards.
Id barely call the byzantines the Romans. They were a greek led empire
Unfair, there is still actual debate amongst historians and scholars about when the Roman empire ended, and if ever, it fell.
Among which historians specifically? I’m unaware of any serious debate here other than propagandists using the name second Rome, third Rome, ceaser etc. sorry buddy Roman empire collapsed when the franks, Visigoths, ostrogoths and Huns toppled the west. Wanna know why it ended then? Byzantine had split long before into a separate entity to distance itself from Rome and when it collapsed it chugged along with it’s greek orthodox ideals
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On Monday, 26-year-old Daniel Penny was acquitted after killing Jordan Neely, a desperate Black homeless man on the subway…
Tale as old as time.
“…on the grounds that he was trying to protect others.”
I think that’s a pretty fucking important line right there.
I think the point is, the system pushed one man to his breaking point simply for being poor, black, and mentally ill; resulting in his eventual strangulation on a subway. Not saying the the situation didn’t require intervention but acting as if the whole thing was “unavoidable” or even “justified” gladiator giving all the context is Pretty Fucking Important
Imagine if the defense pulls that line in court. My client gun down this man to save lives your honor!
Yup. The irony wasn’t lost on us either.
The bad one looks a fair bit older than 26. Weird hair, too.
