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  • snooggums@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    Yes, it undermines the idea that drivers deserve a living wage and is just Amazon dipping their toes into shifting their drivers into something closer to ‘ride share’ style independent contractors who primarily get their income from tips.

    Short term benefit for long term problems.

    • ricecake@sh.itjust.works
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      I mean, 100% the drivers should be being paid more and the entire system is fundamentally broken.

      In the here and now though, where I can’t do anything to fix anything even if I entirely stop using Amazon forever right this moment, giving someone a random $5 that they wouldn’t otherwise have is a good thing.

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          slippery slope fallacy

          Clicking a button that gives someone money at no expense to you isn’t causing the issue you’re worried about, it’s at worst symptomatic of the broken system that might lead to your concern.

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            7 days ago

            Not all slippery slopes are fallacies.

            Ever notice that all the counter service places are leaning into tipping because it became popular with coffee shops?

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              Sure. And if Amazon ever asks us to tip delivery people with our own money we shouldn’t because that’s bullshit.

              That being bullshit has no bearing on if it’s good to click the button that gives someone $5 at no expense to you out of their employers pocket.

              If a counter service place has a button I could press to give them $5 of the stores money, I would press it every time. That’s not a tip because it’s not my money supplementing the employees wages.

      • DrSteveBrule@mander.xyz
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        Then give the tip in person. Don’t let amazon know they can count on their customers to carry the burden of paying their employees

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          Oh God no, then it’s actually me paying the money, which makes it an actual tip.
          If Amazon asks if they should pay someone more, the answer is always yes.

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            7 days ago

            That’s fair too. I’ll be honest I’m always going to be pessimistic as hell when it comes to anything amazon says and does. If it’s their money, make them pay up

      • Zirconium@lemmy.world
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        Yea if you’re going to use a bad service might as well help while you can. It’s like going to a restaurant then not tipping because it encourages owners. They don’t give a fuck cause they still get your money