• Schlemmy@lemmy.ml
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    21 days ago

    I would like to know how these politicians feel about being surveilled 24/7? Because they aren’t excluded.

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      21 days ago

      The European Ministry whants to exclude themselves and europeans intelligence agencies (europool) from the surveillance. The Ministry is the only instance that’s have talked about excluding.

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          Looks that way I don’t understand how they are thinking. It is pretty obvious that they dont trust thorn or other lobbyists so they know the risks.

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            They are quite simply corrupt. It doesn’t matter what they privately think. Corruption includes personal immunity, as long as you toe the line.

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        Hmm, that seems like a good start, but sadly pretty broad and incomplete. On the top of my head, I can recall an incident where Google automatically called the cops on a father, because he shared pictures of his child with a doctor. I also recall that in Germany, teachers can get in trouble currently, if they share images their pupils were sharing, with the parents to alert them. Furthermore, a scanner looking for certain triggers can be trivially circumvented by simply encrypting the images before sending them. All of those points seem to be missing from the website, which makes me question of those points I mentioned are really applicable or not.

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          Yes you are absolutely right. I have talked about this in Swedish with friends and online “debates” that I simple password-protected zip file is all that is needed to bypass the whole idea of chatcontrol. And then you can safely share csam. If real criminals can use this simple trick, who is chatcontrol going to watch and flag for CSAM?

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    I will just host a matrix instance. Decentralization is the future.

    Also, why don’t they realize that avoiding chat control is soo easy. Unless it isn’t actually meant to prevent crimes

    Here is an interesting article on how stupid the chat control is. It’s in German, but probably easy to translate.

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      The answer is forever. Even if chat control dies for good there will be some other initiative, just as there were many before this one. Maintaining your rights and freedoms unfortunately requires constant vigilance.

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      21 days ago

      As I understand it, it’s exactly like the online safety bill in the uk. but I’m not that well-read on online safety bill.