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    I try to use YT as little as possible these days. Used to stream a lot of indie music, not talking indie radio guitarists no I mean the REAL indie basement dwellers, but since YT took away play-all buttons I moved to SoundCloud. Just type in a song you know in the genre you want and let it autoplay.

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    Classic actions of a horrible company doing horrible things.

    “It’s for the safety of the children”

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    I had this happen recently with Freetube and the, very strangely, age restricted new trailer for a Darktide update. Hope the big brains figure out a work around. Even invidious fallback wouldn’t play it.

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    i don’t understand why people don’t just use revanced and ublock?

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      I don’t like having a google account that has google tracking any video I watch. Also… the recommendations are more addicting and with Tubular (NewPipe fork) and Freetube I just imported my subs and follow them a bit. Never had to deal with the shitty youtube website once. Also, ReVanced still uses the proprietary YouTube apk and I prefer free software on my phone

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        You’re worried about Google watching what videos you watch, presumably while signed into your Google account on an android phone?

        Unless you’re running Graphene that level of abstraction isn’t much in their way.

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      I like revanced but it is still the closed source YouTube client and I still don’t know what it is doing. Plus you have to connect a Google account for some actions (like history).

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      My main problem is that freetube perfectly remembers video position, without fail.
      YouTube always fails

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        I’ve had the same problem, in my case it was that my adblocker was blocking the domains used to track video position, which are mildly tracking-ish in nature.

        *.video-stats.l.google.com *.s.youtube.com

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          Some said it helps adding a tile to ublpfk, it didn’t the only thing that helped was a plugin.

          Than again, I could use a chromium browser for it, they seek to work better

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      How does Revanced even work.

      I mean, newpipe is just download install and it works.

      Anyone have a tutorial?

      (Also how would Revanced bypass age restricted if you need to sign in before youtube even sends the video over to you? Does Revanced use burner accounts like Aurora store?)

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      Never got revanced to work on my phone (in spite of reading all the documentation and online advice, doing literally everything that was supposed to make it work short of jail breaking or changing to Graphene) and as for ublock, I use it but I prefer YouTube on a dedicated client to a browser tab since I usually have far too many of the latter open at a time…

      Besides, unlike revanced, NewPipe worked perfectly out of the box and it seems like PipePipe still does, so…

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        have you tried revanced manager? i typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube.

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          have you tried revanced manager

          Yep. And if I hadn’t, that would be the first advice the documentation would give me lol

          typically just download revanced manager, pop over to apkmirror and get the recommended version (in this case 19.43.41), downloading the v8 package, going back into revanced manager and clicking storage, selecting the apk, and then letting it run. if you select the custom branding patch you don’t have to uninstall the original youtube

          That’s what I did, but it refused to patch. Tried every possible thing, but it just refused to work.

          NewTube, on the other hand, worked perfectly immediately.

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            Did you make sure to turn on the “GmsCore Support” patch? (I think it used to be called “MicroG Support”.) You have to enable that patch on unrooted devices in order for the app to work.

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                Did you make sure you have several GBs of free memory on the device while patching? At least until recently, ReVanced Manager would throw an error if it ran out of memory, and it actually needed (if I recall correctly) around 8 GB of free memory in order to finish the patching process or it’d throw one of several errors, depending on where in the process it ran out of memory.

                Supposedly they’ve fixed this issue with the latest update to ReVanced Manager, which included a new patching process, but I haven’t had a chance to test it.

                Edit: Also, did you use the default patch selections? While there are other patches available to select and deselect, using anything other than the default selections can sometimes make things a little unstable. I once ran into an issue with patching, and the solution was just… reset the patch selection to just use the default patches. And it suddenly worked.

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        I remember revanced stopped working and I ended up getting premium because it wouldn’t work on iPad anyway.

        Are there any alternatives now?

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          Well I’ve been using NewPipe until the above incident and now I’m trying out a fork of it called PipePipe. On my tv, I’m using SmartTube

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            I haven’t had this issue with newpipe yet but maybe it’s because I’m just watching video game facts and ROM hack videos for games I’ll never play.

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      To wit: PipePipe is the only one that works for me now to get past the “log in to confirm you’re not a bot” viewing any video. Recent PP releases allow you to log into your YT account (which will also solve this age problem), my ISP uses CGNAT and my IP is shared by millions and changes frequently triggering the YT bot filter for every video. :-/

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      People would, in general, really love to pay a reasonable subscription to youtube that gets fairly distributed to the video creators they watch the most.

      So if there’s ever a way to do that, they’ll probably use it.

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      Give me a way to pay them with my money, without financing the 3rd yacht of a middle man. But I don’t look at stupid ads. You call it stealing? I don’t fucking care, I’ll do it anyway. Sue me :)

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      Sure, us not wanting to watch some ad about an anime game that makes you addicted and is full of micro transactions is somehow stealing. Are you out of your mind?

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        Yep you are stealing. Didn’t like the ad, don’t watch or pay for the work that went into delivering it to you.

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      Youtube made 8.9 billion last quarter in ad revenue. That’s almost 100 million a day.

      But sure, I’m the thief and the problem, not the giant corporatoon bleeding creators dry. What a joke.

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        Are you offering a cheaper way or more payout? Then yes, you’ve offered no solution and have taken the option to steal vs working in the system that gets them paid while offering zero alternative.

        Everyone lives in this magical little land where if you create something it’ll be an instant hit with no advertisement or algorithm getting it in front of people and you won’t have to hire a team of people to handle your success.

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          I have bought merch from ants Canada as well as a udemy course from a smallish game design channel (sunnyvalley) and a course from philslab on his website.

          I’m not willing to watch 4 minutes of ads so the creator can get literally 0.01 $. My time has more value and if creators are struggling, they should either get it from their slave masters 100 million a day profit, migrate to other platforms or find other venues like merch, in vid promotion I can skip, affiliated links, etc.

          I won’t play googles monopolistic games. I live an ad free life. Ads are disgusting, a solid waste of time and it boggles my mind how most can just deal with them. It’s literally manipulation out in the open, wtf?

          Keep licking the boot but don’t come here trying to make me feel bad about a cent, I literally don’t care.

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              Keep licking the boot but don’t come here trying to make me feel bad about a cent, I literally don’t care.

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                You clearly have taken offense to me calling out the behavior. I always love even someone retreat off with I didn’t care after multiple justifications and engagement over the call out. Amazing.

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                  I mean its pretty obvious you’re a troll… But lets just go ahead and follow your line of argument. How is he cheaping out if he gave the creators he supported way more money through merch than they would have ever received through YT ad revenue?

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                  I take no offense, I just think it holds no ground. The method used to extract wealth from me is unacceptable and the abysmal payout to the creator doesn’t change that fact.

                  Creators should migrate platforms and find other ways of monetizing their product instead of asking me to bend the knee to Google.

                  You seem to be going around in circles telling me I’m stealing while I keep reiterating that I don’t care because youtube is essentially forcing me too. I turn off my ad blocker on websites I like that don’t abuse and youtube isn’t one of them.

                  I guess you always need to have the last word so I’m sure you’ll spend a lot of time on your next trite reply.

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      Yes, the problem are definitely the few percent of people using ad blockers, but absolutely not the corpos spewing out a few cents while watching creators fight against each other and the algorithm ™️ from their second yacht they bought this week.

      Keep bootlicking, fool.

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        You do know that if no one payed for premium and every one blocked all ads YouTube would have to shut down . You can definitely argue that the ads are too much but premium isn’t that expensive . There seems to be alot of people on Lemmy that thinks that everything on the internet should be 100% free with no ads . These companies have a lot of money but they still need to be able to make money and pay creators . Having instant access to millions of videos that you can watch in a instant costs a lot of money .

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          You do know that if no one payed [sic] for premium and every one blocked all ads YouTube would have to shut down

          Don’t threaten us with a good time.

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          And where did I say that no one should pay for youtube premium? Where did I say that everything should be 100% free?

          If YouTube premium is worth it for you, go for it. In my opinion YouTube is getting worse by the day, and it’s monopoly due to its reach and resources suppresses any competition, unfortunately. Even if YouTube Premium would cost 10 cents I won’t pay it, because I simply think that YouTube has severely gone wrong. Vote with your wallet.

          And before other connoisseurs of boot material chime in - I’m paying for Google one. I’m using drive and mail daily. I bought the new pixel, watch and buds day one, and all of those are amazing Google products I’m very happy to pay for, just as I do for Spotify, HP, Netflix, IntelliJ and any other product that brings me value.

          Pay for what you want, and let me do the same.

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          If YouTube shut down, PeerTube becomes viable. As do a galaxy of other solutions. YouTube is sucking all the oxygen out of the room. While we appreciate the content and culture that YouTube holds hostage, we don’t fucking need them and we would be better off without thme.

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        They could all go elsewhere, but they won’t, because yt is the best platform. Lots of anger and copium in this thread.

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          YouTube is the biggest platform, and the one with the most resources. Whether it’s the best one is on another page.

          And again, keep bootlicking. Chrome fanboy, goated YouTube, and even MSP, talking about copium. Your poor fucking customers and people working under you.

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            I have a hilarious low turnover for tech on my team. You’ll have to try harder to attach me vs the issue than that.

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          because yt is the best platform

          …for very specific definitions of “best”.

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              Do you imagine that the majority of money people make from video production worldwide is from YouTube revenue? Or even a significant portion of it? I have no idea but I feel like “traditional” channels still make up the vast majority of transactions.

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        For that matter why is it my business to pay for profit content creators? I do what I please and it is up to them to figure it out. The only creators calling third party clients theft are the ones making millions

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          For that matter why is it my business to pay for profit content creators?

          If you prefer creators who only do YouTube as a hobby, that’s fair game, no questions asked. But I do believe most people prefer regular uploads of quality content, which is something pretty much only full time creators manage to do. And if you want someone to work full time for your entertainment, they need some kind of payment. Who do you think should pay them?

          I do what I please and it is up to them to figure it out.

          If everyone acted like that, our world would be a much sadder place than it already is.

          The only creators calling third party clients theft are the ones making millions

          So why not support the ones who don’t say that?

          I’m not trying to say what you do is theft. In my opinion it’s much more nuanced, and also about how much you earn, etc. But in the end I dont think there’s any way around having to pay the people who make quality content. So if you have the means, please at least consider doing so.

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            I just don’t like the guilt tripping. I don’t mind tipping or buying something of value to me but expecting everyone to do that is silly.

            Are expecting me to click on every single ad I see to support creators? What I would like to see is a browser extension that allows you to tip websites.

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        I have yet to find a single person who pays for all the content they steal. They might do it for 2 patreons but the rest is just bullshit stealing.

        But sure I’m sure this person is dropping $3a month to everyone’s videos they are watching 🙄

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        Sync, but for the same of argument, edge is better than Firefox. When Firefox stops sucking I’ll use it. Until then it’s a third choice browser. Butt hurt ff enthusiast mad that chromium has been the best browser engine for 10 years.

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          Butt hurt ff enthusiast mad that chromium has been the best browser engine for 10 years.

          Lol troll harder

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            Just keep on ignoring the slow decline of the last other usable browser and hide from reality. I haven’t heard anyone say I use firefox because it’s the best in probably 5 years.

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              I had to use Edge at my last job and I really tried to like it, but it kept pushing all these unwanted ads and “features” at me. I much prefer Firefox.

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              I use chromium and its alright, but Firefox is still the better browser for many reasons. Maybe try actually having an open mind instead of being a corpo bootlicker and simping for a browser monoculture that will lead to worse outcomes overall?

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                I have an open mind. I’ve used it. I’ve used it recently. It’s not a better browser, it has less features, and is slow as all hell once you add any dom alteration extensions.

                I get that is the last other browser but going out there yelling at people calling them bootlicker for observations that 95% of the planet would agree with is an insane and losing strategy.

                Has that worked for Linux desktop?

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                  Lol, what features does it have that Firefox doesn’t? Corpo spying? Enforced ads? Tighter integration into Google services?

                  Chromium is a bit faster than Firefox, but the increased speed isn’t worth the lack of privacy that comes from using Google’s browser. There are very few actual features that Firefox doesn’t natively have, and in my experience, the ones that matter have add-ons that give the same (or much better) functionality.

                  for observations that 95% of the planet would agree with

                  You’re wildly overestimating how many people would agree with you, and even more so the amount of people who can actually make an informed decision past ‘this inferior product is easier to use’.

                  Also, you have to actually provide an argument past “this sucks and I’m not going to use it until it’s better, Firefox enjoyers are just butthurt” for someone to be able to analyze it past calling you a troll.

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    My most mildly infuriating thing with freetube is that the new player is not aligned with the edges of the video, I reported it initially cause I thought it was a bug

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      In this case it was an updated version (even though I specifically searched for the original, but that’s a seperate issue) of Michael Jackson’s They Don’t Care About Us video with some graphic images of war and starvation.

      I think it’s like this with all age-gated videos, though 😮‍💨

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      I’m surprised more people don’t create fake accounts with fake identities?

      Be Goliath Giantman who lives in tinytown, Nebraska. Use the address of a Dominos.

      Then Go one step farther. Make a social media profile. Post AI photos of Goliath’s family and dog. Assign him the job you wish you had. Sign him up for ancestry .com and create the family tree you want.

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    Consider moving to LibreTube or Clipious, got annoyed as well

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      LibreTube stoped working for me quite while ago “log in to confirm you are not a bot” on pretty much every instance.

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          Does anyone know why? They are using IPv6 addresses so theoretically there should be infinite IPs.

          Honestly YouTube should try to come up with some sort of deal to allow Piped and other third party frontends. Maybe have some sort of paid API access or some agreement to allow YouTube to use piped servers as a cache. The overhead for YouTube is large and maybe they could lower it with community help.

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            That would make sense(most invidious instances like to rotate proxys and use different backends aswell), but youtube from what I seen doesn’t do anything good updates.

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        Nadeko’s has been working well for me on clipious

        Give that one a try

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      Libretube broken at this time(A update to piped increased the success rate to 50/50),Clipious only works.

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      What do you do when those add age-restrictions? They’re a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.

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        They’re a legal restriction after all, not a random corporate decision.

        That’s not true. If it was, the videos would only be age gated in places where it’s required by law. That’s not the case here in Denmark, to name just one example.

        It’s 100% corporate “err on the side of censorship” bullshit.