There seems to be a large percentage of recent college graduates who are unemployed.
Honestly think we’re as a country on the decline like the Romans were, doesn’t matter which party was in charge.
We need real, people focused movement.
Graduated in 2014 from university of Arizona (bio/chem double major): my first job paid me 9$/hour to which I negotiated 10$/hour. Stayed with them 3 months before being fired for making mistakes (I did make small mistakes, nothing crazy though). Started as a cowboy giving horse rides and pony cart rides instantly at 10/hour + tips. A year later started teaching at the university for 10/hour. Worked there 7 years maxing out at 15.80$. The job market is utter garbage for graduates.
Most people don’t understand what college is actually for. Most people think college is to learn something and then you make a career out of it. Well, it’s not, unless you want to go into academia.
College is a way to socialize and meet other people. This means you need to get into the right crowds and meet the right people. You use this time to do things like internships. What you learn and what your GPA is does not matter to any employer. Who you know, does.
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I’m so happy to see that others read that as well.
To be fair, your degree and GPA can be helpful in landing your very first job. After that though you’re right, nobody cares about anything but your work experience.
Not just work experience but connections as well. I graduated back in the 90’s to a slow market. It took me months and sending out 100 or so resumes for a whopping 5 interviews, and eventually one job offer. Luckily for me I made a number of good connections at that place. After 2 years there I quit to join a startup where 4 of the 5 people there were all former coworkers. Over the past 25+ years I’ve worked at close to 10 companies, most of which came from connections from those first two companies.
When I started my current job, the CTO and cofounder was somebody I first met back at my very first job, and (including mergers) this is the sixth company where we’ve worked together.
Sage advice! I’ve also never applied for a job beyond my first one - always just followed a friend and former coworker into a new company. Connections really do open doors.
Your take would make sense if internships weren’t completely swamped
My cs internship took about 300 or so applications to get one (after about 5 months of looking). It’s even worse now, and knowing people doesn’t mean much in this industry unless it’s a small local company or you somehow know the vp of a company.
This is where having a good GPA matters and going to a good school. If you want to go to school to learn, that’s cool, but don’t think it’s going to get you a good job.
If you were in the same Greek house as the hiring manager, your chances go up. If you went to the same school or went to a prestigious school like Yale, your chances go up. No one is looking at your GPA at this point though.
You really have to go out and socialize. It’s not enough to just have a degree anymore. You need to do projects. Contribute to open source projects. Go to meetups.
If you have Google on your resume, you’re good. It doesn’t matter how good you did there. Employers look at this. If you start your career off on the wrong foot, it will follow you around for the rest of your career and it may be difficult to get out of it.
Nobody ever cares about anyone’s GPA except to get into grad school.
Well yeah. Your college GPA doesn’t matter unless you’re trying to get into grad school.
I was hired to a job a year ago that required to see my transcript and GPA for a college degree I got 15 years ago. Apparently grades matter longer than you’d expect.
That’s extremely rare. That’s also extremely obnoxious because if you don’t still have those on hand, after 15 years, your university might not either.
I remember needing to get my high school transcripts in order to get a public trust clearance when I was almost 30. The school didn’t even have them anymore.
It did matter for GE. Jerks wanted 3.8 or higher to consider you. They did interviews as a formality. Didn’t matter if you went to community or ivy league. Never felt so annoyed at my life choices. Hindsight glad I didn’t get the job.
Of course my current company, my coworkers went to a local cheap party school. Like wtf was the struggle for?
Same with Google
Fair, but that’s very rare. Most companies require a degree and then don’t even ask for proof of one.
I must have hit the bads one often,
Another company literally tore through my transcript and grilled me on why I had a terrible semester. Such dbags. I should’ve gone to party school.
The struggle is for nothing? If you went to a school with grade deflation to ‘maintain the integrity of education’? Get fucked, party schools will pass kids or allow kids to grade grub to a higher GPA.
Academia is such a fucking game.
Yeah I felt like I got wrecked with high debt and high stress for years. Meanwhile I got coworkes who said school was chill and literally on a beach.
I went to just one interview were someone cared about college and that’s only because they went there.
GPA’s mean jack shit these days anyway. Super smart kids who nolifed through college or were so heavily funded by rich parents that they had personal tutors and zero life stress to focus on a 4.0 are now common, but aren’t enough for the limited number of poorly paying entry level positions. The bar has moved up to graduating experience; if you didn’t get one, ideally two summer or 6-month internships during your bachelor’s you might as well just go jump off a bridge now.
I managed to squeeze myself into a full time job directly from an intership because it was with a locally based company that I was able to intern for while going to school, but maybe 50% of my graduating class still has OpenToWork on their linkedin’s a full year down now…
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