Summary
An Idaho doctor testified that confusion over the state’s strict abortion bans left a miscarrying patient “passed around like a hot potato” as doctors avoided treating her out of fear of legal consequences.
The 14-week pregnant woman, suffering heavy bleeding and anemia, was denied care during three ER visits before being admitted against hospital rules, miscarrying, and requiring a blood transfusion.
The testimony is part of a lawsuit challenging Idaho’s abortion laws, which ban most abortions with few exceptions, leaving patients in dangerous situations without timely care.
At this point these abortion bans should be called Matricide Approvals
Remember when Republicans hated the idea of death panels?
Every private insurer has a death panel that is only accountable to share holders. Progressives need to start framing stuff in those terms instead of letting the Republicans bully them into accepting their framing.
The republican party is constantly able to dominate the conversation. Every election cycle they decide whether immigration/economics/war/whatever is what will be discussed and the democrats try to play defense instead of just calling them out.
“Death panels already exist do you want them to be purely for-profit?” it’s not even that hard they’re just incompetent.
Part of it is that they want to placate their “moderate” wing too (read: the donors). If your plan is Medicare for All, you can say that and it’s easy to explain to people. If your plan is the Affordable Care Act, you’ll still have the for profit death panels, so you’d have to say something like: ‘we’ll regulate the existing death panels slightly more and force you to sign up to them’, which doesn’t actually sound that great.
Every accusation is a confession.
Edit: Ah should have read down before replying, but fuck it, it bears repeating.
Every accusation is a confession. These won’t be the only death panels, either. Far, far worse is to come. They’re willing to kill anyone in defence of their supposed ‘superior morals’.
These aren’t death panels, they are death funnels.
Isn’t this a more Kafka version of death panels that we were promised under Obamacare.
There is no death panel however you have been deemed to die by the death panel. Good luck navigating the bureaucracy.
You have to actually read a book to even know what you mean when you say “Kafka.” So good luck convincing anyone with that.
Over-kafka systems have worked so well when dealing with immigration, disability, medical, and veteran affairs. Worked well as in saved money by not providing services because they made them too complicated.
“I was working with some amazing nurses and we decided as a team that we were going to break our hospital’s rules and admit her, even though she wasn’t 20 weeks pregnant because I just couldn’t send her home again and hope for the best,” Lyons said.
More like this please. Fuck your hospital’s rules, make something up if you need to, this is someone’s life. Bureaucracy isn’t really very good at checking itself and a lot of rules get broken “by mistake”. If the rules are bad, don’t follow them. If anyone actually gets on your case, “I’m sorry, I guess I misremembered the policy and was worried about protecting the hospital from liability”.
Employees on the front lines have a lot more power to grind dumb rules to dust than they think.
It just sucks that it was her FOURTH visit to the ER.
First do no harm
Hot potato is the Republican form of health care.
Oh patients get hot potatoe’d all the time it’s just usually they’re full code violent dementia patients. OB hot potatoes are just the new fad in overly legally complicated patients no one wants to be officially responsible for when they die. The republican party is the party of the freedom to die in a ditch full of maggots when your
death panelinsurance review board (chaired by an eye doctor who’s been out of practice for 10 years after committing fraud) denies your chemo treatment juuust long enough that you’re better off dying quickly and getting out of their hair.Anyone else remember Death Panels?
I don’t think insurance claim review boards went away.
She miscarried? Damn, life in prison.
They should just exclude pregnancy, births and anything associated with it from health care.
That’s their plan
Women should be screaming in agony and bleeding out in their beds at home, as god intended. Pain and death in childbirth is the price of Eve’s sin, and only the pure and righteous earn an easy pregnancy.
I am not kidding, I’ve heard this from evangelical extremists (who have now been voted into power).
and the big argument that a lot of first world countries debate is the lowering birth rates … why in the hell would anyone want to have children in this environment?
These people don’t ask women for permission.
I believe you, that something like this was said, but in this age where the web is at our command, “some evangelical somewhere said that” seems needlessly vague and unconvincing.
I can’t remember their names, but one is a televangelist preacher and the other is a woman who’s claiming to be a prophet. They’re both fairly well known. They were in a recent compilation video of evangelical sermons.
Yes, but then where would they get good little soldiers for the meat grinder from?
There’s always North Korea /s
Test tube babies probably … because giving natural birth has become so politicized and affected by religious beliefs that fewer people will actually want to have children and countries will try to figure out alternative ways of creating expendable humans.
It’s going to get worse. What I have not seen is how we help. What actions can we take today, tomorrow, and next week will help those impacted by this step backward? I get being mad. I get being informed. But elections put us in a precarious place and real people need help tomorrow…now. Every one of these articles should include a call to action and I have a 9 to 5 trying to keep mine above water so just tell me. We need to solve problems.
Well no worries, once Trump is in office these women won’t have any healthcare available to them.
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