Looking up those patents, the first alludes to a system where a player aims and fires an “item” toward a character in a field, and in doing so triggers combat, and then dives into extraordinary intricacies about switching between modes within this. The second is very similar, but seems more directly focused on tweaking previous patents to including being able to capture Pokémon in the wild, rather than only during battle. The third, rather wildly, seems to be trying to claim a modification to the invention of riding creatures in an open world and being able to transition between them easily.

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    People who don’t like Palworld, maybe give a real reason? The AI stuff was made up by a salty troll who admitted later he made it up. It being “legally distinct from pokémon” isn’t a good enough reason. It having the ability to

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    butcher your Pals for resources

    may be a reason to be upset about the gameplay, but then again, many, many, many RPGs have you culling the local wildlife and depopulating a nation for quests too. Neither is the Genshin Impact art style a reason to hate it. That’s just JRPG asthetics.

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      Its a very lazy mediocre game that only got recognition because it was ”Pokémon with guns”

      I don’t like what Nintendo is doing, but I also thing palworld is a crap game

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        It definitely only got popular because of the hype re: “Pokemon with guns,” but it’s legitimately better than the game it actually copied, which is Ark. You know what’s cool about Palworld? Me and my coplayer were able to stop playing without losing everything we’ve built

        Anyone who thinks Palworld is actually a Pokemon ripoff either hasn’t played Palworld or hasn’t played Pokemon

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      The butchering thing always bugged me. Where tf do you think your chicken nuggies come from? The only difference is that we don’t let real animals have friends before we kill em

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        Real animals have friends. Beef cows are slaughtered at about 1 yr old, and they don’t keep them in isolation for a year

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          I guess I should have said we don’t make friends with them. I could have also drawn attention to the awful living conditions, but getting all Dominion-y wouldn’t have the pizzazzy oomph that I was going for

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      Really buggy at launch (not sure if it still is). “Pokemon with guns” is the least creative direction to take the concept. Devs reportedly don’t know how to use any sort of SCM, a basic development tool

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    Ok that third one, come the fuck on.

    Like don’t even pretend. You could never ride nearly the number of Pokemon you can compared to Pals in Palworld.

    That’s basically patenting riding a fucking horse

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    People need to stop supporting Nintendo at all. They’re lawsuit happy assholes who have been doing everything they can to piss away any good will they might have had. They’re the only game company out there who refuses to make enough of many of their products, like their mini NES and SNES, to meet demand because then its “exclusive”, they are the only company trying to destroy all type of emulation for Nintendo consoles, and they’re the only company who seems to actually want their older games to disappear into the ether. Edit: Oh and they fucking refuse to put their games on sale or lower their prices years afterwards. BoTW is still 60 bucks even though it’s 7 and a half years old. Fucking insane.

    Fuck Nintendo.

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      trying to destroy all type of emulation for Nintendo consoles

      Only emulation used by others. They’re happy to kang all’ the ROMs and emulators off’ a site before destroying it for everyone else, then not even sell most of the damn things. Absurd. There’s nothing good about that, not even for Nintendo themselves.

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        Patents are not the problem, they serve as a way to share the knowledge of a creation with everyone while protecting your company for a REASONABLE TIME to compensate for the RnD costs.

        The problem is the distortion of the concept to fit late stage capitalism delights.

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        Patents shouldn’t exist! Mostly.

        We had a history before patents/copyright were enforced. It was pretty brutal for anyone trying to make a living with their creations. Take a look and see if you want to return to that.

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            A shitty solution for a shitty situation is not a good solution

            Feel free to share your revolutionary idea that will still incentivize people to create without creating a “shitty situation”.

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              I don’t need to come up with any revolutionary ideas, the open source folks are already creating without patenting their creations

              Here’s a revolutionary idea: universal basic income. No need to prevent other people from monetizing your idea if you don’t need to monetize your idea in the first place

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                I don’t need to come up with any revolutionary ideas, the open source folks are already creating without patenting their creations

                The largest contributors to Open Source make their money from patents and other IP. As in, they can afford to give away lots of time and effort because they make their money with IP. If IP were to be eradicated as you’re proposing, all those contributions to Open Source by those largest contributors would evaporate. Here’s the largest Open Source contributors from 2017-2020.

                source

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          yeah now its brutal for anyone trying to make a living and excellent for anyone who already inherited a living and has more money than they could use in multiple lifetimes. I’d hate to go back to when it was just brutal for anyone trying to make a living.

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            yeah now its brutal for anyone trying to make a living

            What patent or copyright is preventing you from making a living?

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            I think the problem would be similar. The rich and powerful would be the only ones to profit off of inventions and innovations.

            We still have indie game devs today. Imagine if any company could just copy an indie game and scale it up/polish a bit and get all the sales.

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      I concur. I hope this goes to court and the judge throws those patents out.

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    They left it small so that it wouldn’t be worth it to fight in court and they’d either just settle for a license fee or pay the fine. But sounds like the best way would be to get the patents revoked, but that’s probably more expensive than just paying the fine due to the legal fees.

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    Fuck Nintendo. They get a pass so often from people when they really shouldn’t.

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      Part of the reason is because most people don’t notice the lawsuits or think this is boilerplate legal stuff that happens in the background all the time. They’re too distracted by the entertainment side of things.

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    Its like seeing the 2 worst people fighting, I dont know who I want to to win.

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      You don’t have to pick a side. You have no skin in this beef between big N and legally not Pokemon.

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        legally not Pokemon

        You mean Digimon? Or Monster Rancher? Or Cassette Beasts? Or Temtem? Or Shin Megami Tensei? Or Kingdom Hearts DDD? Or Ark? Or Yo-kai Watch? Or Telefang?