Most people just want a good life. If we stopped seeing each other as the enemies the world could be better.

  • thezeesystemEnglish
    54·
    1 month ago

    Idk one side wants to enslave, murder, and rape. The other does not.

    Let’s just be friends as they take away my rights and everyone I love rights away, we shouldn’t be enemies as they hunt down and murder someone for “existing”

    Maybe we shouldn’t be friends with the enemy and fight against the regime?

    This is one of the was Nazis came into power, by manipulating the mass thinking “oh we should all be friends” and now look what happened.

    -a trans non-binary disabled person

  • Jonnyprophet@lemmy.world
    43·
    1 month ago

    Amen.

    What the people who want to control us don’t want us to realize is that you have a lot more in common with the Chinese/Russian/Ukrainian/Mexican/Indian working class… Factory worker/programmer/hard-working house wife… Then you do with your own political leaders and billionaires. People with servants who don’t ever worry about bills. (Biden, Trump, Harris, Vance, Elon, Gates, Bezos, etc)… Don’t look at the foreigners as different and the enemy… Look at the Rich and the Politicians (who want us to blame the foreigners)

  • demesisx@infosec.pubEnglish
    25·
    29 days ago

    It’s by design. Divide and conquer Combine and conquer has been the playbook since they (anti-labor think tanks like the Progressive Policy Institute and others that seek to keep labor infighting) started studying group psychology.

    FPTP contributes more than its share to the tribalism and poor infighting we see in the US and the UK.

        • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          3·
          1 month ago

          Yea you mentioned divide and conquer then put images of the parliament with and without FPTP. Its easily misinterpreted to say that proportional representation is somehow “divide and conquer”.

          • demesisx@infosec.pubEnglish
            11·
            29 days ago

            That’s interesting and you make a great point.

            From my perspective, I showed how a simple change to US and UK election laws can topple the two party system overnight.

            Literally, if there are only two private parties run by private organizations of rich people, they merely have to divide us and conquer us. We are being puppeteered by a bunch of corporations that use identity politics to keep the poor fighting amongst themselves and people SLURP THAT SHIT UP BECAUSE THE TWO PARTY SYSTEM CODIFIES IT INTO EVERY DECISION.

            Feudalism with a few more steps.

            Interesting point, though and I can see what you mean.

            Truly, if my comment were to make sense, I’d have to say they have “combined” and conquered.

  • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
    23·
    1 month ago

    I don’t see MAGA people as the enemy because they want to pay less in taxes. I see them as the enemy because they don’t think my kids should exist in society and are actively passing legislation to make it so.

    Delete this shit take.

  • atro_city@fedia.io
    21·
    1 month ago

    The major difference is money. We should be banding together against the rich, but instead we distract ourselves with what we look like, what we sound like, where we come from, what team (sports, town, city, state, country, …) we support, which sex we have, and a bunch of other things that divide us.

  • Zacpod@lemmy.world
    20·
    1 month ago

    I’m not sure that’s true. One side has empathy. The other does not. I don’t want to be friends with someone who doesn’t have empathy.

        • Free_Opinions@feddit.uk
          6·
          1 month ago

          One side has empathy. The other does not.

          You generalized as if everyone on the left has empathy and no one on the right does. That’s simply not true. Group differences like this are often larger within the group than between them. While it might be true that, on average, people on the right are less empathetic than those on the left, it’s neither fair nor accurate to imply that one side has empathy and the other doesn’t.

          • Zacpod@lemmy.world
            3·
            1 month ago

            Eh. Fits with what I see in politics, the folks voting for right winger, and my own experiences conversing with them IRL. I see no issue with making that assumption and then being pleasantly surprised the odd time it isn’t true.

            Maybe it’s a North America thing, tho. It’s quite possible that the euro flavor of right wing is a more empathetic group.

        • Interstellar_1
          7·
          1 month ago

          Empathy is something that can be learned like any ability, it isn’t always a binary you have it or you don’t.

    • WeUnite@lemm.eeOPEnglish
      9·
      1 month ago

      I kind of see your point there. My hope though is that maybe people could gain more empathy for each other by understanding that we are all human and I hope that one day people can understand each other’s struggles.

  • Mossy Feathers (She/They)@pawb.social
    20·
    1 month ago

    I only see people as an enemy if they’ve declared themselves as such. I’m not gonna make the first move, life is too short to make enemies with everyone I meet. That said, if you’ve got a swastika tattooed on your forehead then I’m gonna take that as a declaration that you’re my enemy.

  • GreenKnight23@lemmy.world
    12·
    1 month ago

    nah.

    I can’t have empathy for fuckheads that want to kill and imprison people based on their sexual preferences or their identity.

    I refuse to subject myself to the torture of “working together” with people with fascist ideologies.

    I cannot, and will not, coexist with Nazis.

    • thermal_shock@lemmy.worldEnglish
      11·
      1 month ago

      I think op meant more along the lines of normal, everyday people, not radical extremists who hate everyone that isn’t like them.

      and by normal, I mean non hate driven people. I believe everyone is weird in some way, there is no “normal”.

      the way I described it to my son is everyone has the same right to be happy as he does, you don’t get to dictate that to anyone. we love you for your weirdness and expect the same for anyone else.

      • daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        2·
        1 month ago

        In many countries most normal people will harass, imprison or kill people based on sexual preference or gender identity.

        Just normal people. Not members of any extremist group. Just the guy who is selling groceries or the gal buying them. Most people on this world hate anyone who is different to them.

  • ChronosTriggerWarning@lemmy.world
    9·
    1 month ago

    Like South Park on religion: “you’re all so focused on the stupid little differences that you’re not seeing the big, stupid similarities.”

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
    9·
    1 month ago

    If you prick us do we not bleed? If you tickle us do we not laugh? If you poison us do we not die? And if you wrong us shall we not revenge?

  • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
    9·
    1 month ago

    I have been struggling with this lately. I am staunchly anti violence and anti war, and yet, I am conflicted on how far I truly would be willing to go to cull classism, fascism, racism, transphobia , homophobia, misogyny, and pedophilia from the world.

    These things are abhorrent to me, and I wonder how much of my humanity I’d be willing to sacrifice in exchange for even one of these to no longer being in existence amongst the ranks of humanity.

    How much good does pacifism give to the world in promoting the better angels of our nature? How much harm does it do when those same principles allow the worst among us to march down our roads and drag away our loved ones in the night?

    Two scenes from media I consume have lately continually resurfaced in my mind. One is this scene from Vinland Saga, where the main character’s father confronts him when he finds his sword. The father is about to go off to war, and somberly asks his son who he wants to kill with his father’s sword. This culminates with the father, who again, is about to go off to war, emphatically declaring to his son that he has no enemies, that there is no such thing as enemies.

    The other is this scene from Star Wars Andor, in which a high level spy of a burgeoning Rebellion is asked by a compatriot (who wishes to quit fighting the Empire due to possibly being found out), asks what he sacrifices for the fight against the Empire. The monologue he delivers is chilling, acknowledging he sacrifices all things that make him human, he becomes like his enemy in order to defeat them. When he reflects on the question, and asks, “So what do I sacrifice? Everything!”

    That…is what I believe I will have to give up in order for there to be a sunrise for the people I love tomorrow. I’ll have to give up my humanity, everything. And I am afraid. I am selfish. I don’t want to. But I don’t know any other way.

    The feelings that scene stir up in me resonate because that is how I feel when I think on the fascist cancer that has once again metastasized in America. Having no enemies… if only. Truly. Having enemies robs me of my humanity, because in fighting them I must bury my humanity. And I know that once I do that, there’s no going back. There will be no redemption.

    The thing I am struggling with is… am I the one who makes them my enemies? Or are they? And if the only thing we can agree on is that we are enemies…then what choice do we have when they come for me and those I claim as my kin?

    • dubyakay@lemmy.ca
      2·
      1 month ago

      cull classism, fascism, racism, transphobia , homophobia, misogyny, and pedophilia from the world

      One of these is not like the others.

      • z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml
        1·
        1 month ago

        Fair enough. To be clear, I am saying I would not like any of these aspects of humankind, not that they are necessarily in any way equivalent. Nor am I trying to necessarily relate them to each other. On their own, I dislike them.

    • itsAsin@lemmy.world
      2·
      1 month ago

      i just wanted to say that what you wrote here is beautiful and it helps me clarify my thoughts. ♥️

  • Rikudou_Sage@lemmings.world
    8·
    1 month ago

    No. Some people want to control other people because of their various sky daddies or a simple greed. And those are the ones fucking up your life. Everyone else could more or less get along, but fanatics, billionaires and other people hungry for control of others are actively make sure we don’t.