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You know, I wrote it kind as a flippant comment, not expecting anyone to pay attention (because, really, who pays attention to me?) and suddenly it’s all over the place.
Anyway, I already responded to a lot of people who commented on the original post. I eventually had to mute it due to too much traffic. So if you want to see more, go look at what people were telling me over there. I don’t disagree with most of it, and I think having a good discussion on the subject of this is probably a good thing.
You wrote the original “your body, my choice” comment? Where’s the original comment with all the discussion you mentioned?
Are links allowed? https://wandering.shop/@realtegan/113465326723014007
Edit: It’s also in the original post, I just noticed. Not used to Lemmy yet. And I’m treating the first part of your post as being as flippant as I tend to be. If you meant it, please let me know so I can swat you with the clue-by-four.
By choosing to respond to ‘your body, my choice’ you’re also validating it as a statement that needs discussion or response. It doesn’t need either. It’s a bizarre statement that’s meant to provoke. If you don’t like the polarization that’s happening, don’t let yourself be provoked, don’t engage, ignore unworthy nonsense. Responding with hatred, however well deserved you think it is, does not help us transcend polarization, it’s just another step in the polarization dance.
Not sure I’m 100% convinced of the above sentiment, ignoring it could make things worse too, hatred does sometimes need rebuttal and just ignoring it could be dangerous too. Still I’m wondering if this would be the right approach. I think perhaps it would help if we would not let ourselves be provoked, take a deep breath, and respond in a matter of fact way, that’s not snarky, that’s devoid of any sense of hatred, that’s not exciting, perhaps even boring but honest and true.
I take issue with “it doesn’t need either [discussion or response]”. There is a real possibility that people will use (or are already using) “your body, my choice” with malicious intent. If that’s the case, I will not stand by and do nothing. A knee to the groin seems a good option to me.
I agree with you. It’s rage bait to fuck with us and divide us more. To instill more hate towards each other, etc
My friend is a teacher. He has heard kids say your body my choice.
I really hope schools are taking a zero tolerance policy with this. Kids need to learn that shit is absolutely not ok.
I would hope that schools sit down with kids that say this and discuss what the statement means, how it is interpreted, and ask the kid to put himself in the other person’s shoes. Not a big fan of punishing kids harshly for things they may well have copied from their parents.
Hate to say this but schools are heavily influenced by the shitty parents of said kids.
There was an older comic, lemme pull it up:
Sorry for the 9gag quality, but I’m sure it gets the point across.
Boomer comic.
They’re all getting fed this trash by Nick Fuentes, 4chan trolls, Elon musk, Andrew Tate, Matt Walsh, Jordan Peterson, YouTube algorithms which push right wing content, and the list goes on.
Expel them.
“bUt I oNlY hEaR pEoPlE sAyInG iT oN lEmMy aNd rEdDiT”
Guess people will always like to stick their heads in the ground like a freaking ostrich.
“bUt I oNlY hEaR pEoPlE sAyInG iT oN lEmMy aNd rEdDiT”
Ask them how much time they spend on Lemmy and reddit and how much time they spend touching grass.
What sort of degenerate would say that in anything but satire? I mean, I’ve both heard and read it recently, but what do we call them?
Typical Young Male Republican
Andrew Tate Fan
Angry Incel
Aspiring Rapist
Make a Venn Diagram, these are all almost one perfect circle.
my representation of that diagram:
(sorry for shit image, im not good at inkscape)
From LAMF:
Congrats small business owner, the tariffs you voted for are more likely to shut you down then hold you up.
Good to see even in that hellscape people are responding appropriately (top comments).
It’s pages and pages of OP getting blasted.
Can you link the thread? Reddit search is still terrible.
I’m pretty sure this is it. It looks like mods straight-up razed the thread. There are comments remaining, but only after you scroll past the sea of deleted content.
I found one commenter that made a really interesting observation:
I think you and your sister have different definitions of what love means. You think love means you put up with bad behavior from your loved ones and she thinks love means you don’t behave badly towards your loved ones.
I did a cursory search and it seems the user deleted their account.
I don’t have it handy now but I just SearXNG’d the title with quotes.
Holy shit… “How do I get through to her that she’s overreacting?” No, if you think she’s overreacting then you 100% deserve what you got.
Wow, I’d disown that cunt sister and her rapist husband too. What shitrags.
I struggle to see what could be construed as a joke here
Edit: I think I get it. They think the joke is ‘imagine if I was so awful!’ . The problem is though, they voted for that exact action to occur in the world.
“heated arguent”
“as a joke”🤔
The OP in that screenshot even sounds insufferable through text. Can’t imagine what a dickhole they’re in real life.
What is a lamf?
"leopards ate my face
“On October 16th, 2015, Twitter user @cavalorn tweeted, “‘I never thought leopards would eat MY face,’ sobs woman who voted for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party.” The tweet became a common way to refer to regretful voters over the following five years.”
Conservatives. That’s what they call themselves.
All the misogynistic, racist, homophobic pieces of shit in the world call themselves conservatives. Therefore that is what conservative now means.
Struggling rapist
Seems like standard incel behaviour to me.
I call them pieces of shit.
I mean theres one instance where I think it okay to say it. To women who voted trump. In order to demonstrate a point.
Absolutely in no instance should you ever say this or advocate saying this to a woman. If she voted for it and it’s ever said to her, the leopard ate her face, but you should never be the leopard.
That sounds clever, but it’s still a rape threat, so don’t.
Not even a little bit, as a treat?
The fascists are saying that since their political party won the election, men can threaten to rape women. Not fascist men, any man. Not progressive women, any woman. Avoid agreeing with them by imitating them.
No.
That went from protecting religious values to abusing people real fucking quick right? It was never about that.
Always has been 🌏👨🚀🔫👨🚀
In the end it is tho?
Edit: sorry, i misunderstood what you meant.
“life begins at conception” is real fucking different than “your body my choice”. .
You know who else says “your body my choice?”. Rapists. The lack of nuance is intentional.
Wait a minute… so are there scumbags who actually go around saying “your body, my choice”? Ew. Gross.
The election emboldened some very shitty people to go mask off.
Apparently. Well, I’ll just have to go gloves off.
If Magabilly’s were the Alpha males they claim to be they would be beating the shit out of anyone who disrespects women like this. Strange this isn’t happening…
Yes, it’s all over the news, sadly.
That’s my body! I don’t know you!
LET GO OF MY PURSE!
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I fully support killing rapists in self defense.
That’s my purse! I don’t know you!
lmao his parents’ horror when they found out what Bobby was doing
Kicking a man in the nuts who wants to harm you (rape or murder makes not difference), doesn’t work. It only makes them more aggressive. People tried and failed.
Well, better to just stay still and let it happen, I guess
/s
I don’t think that’s what they’re saying, just that a different approach might be necessary rather than kicking in the balls, or that a kick in the balls might be effective only at buying you more time to implement a better resolution to the scenario.
lol, just cuck him with an immigrant or foreigner.
I have never seen anyone say this. Nor have I seen it on a sign or anything. I’ve only seen it on Lemmy.
Good! No one should ever say this!
