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Israeli Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich endorsed President-elect Donald Trump’s victory, stating it’s “time” to extend full Israeli sovereignty over the occupied West Bank.

This comes as Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu highlighted his alignment with Trump on the “Iranian threat.”

Tensions in Gaza and Lebanon have escalated following recent Israeli airstrikes, with regional leaders gathering in Riyadh to address Israeli actions.

Israeli President Isaac Herzog is set to meet President Biden, though Biden’s influence on Israel may be limited following Trump’s win.

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    16 days ago

    I’m sorry was Richard Spencer on the ballot? How far does this transitive property go? Is the entire family of the voter now Nazis too? After all they have to sit at the table with the person and we know what you all say about sitting at tables with Nazis.

    This is a shit attempt at moral blackmail.

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      16 days ago

      It’s pretty simple.

      1 + 1 = 2

      If you didn’t vote for a Nazi, you aren’t a Nazi.

      • you vote nazi = A
      • you are nazi = B

      !A == !B

      The question is, did you vote for a Nazi?

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        Oh so now you have to affirmatively vote for a Nazi. Well good news, Trump isn’t a Nazi, or a Neo Nazi. There are other flavors of shitty politics.

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          16 days ago

          He is a Nazi. Blonde-haired blue-eyed Nazi.

          His political campaign is built upon Hitler’s rise to power. Not a 1:1, that’d just be fucking weird and obvious.

          I’m not gonna argue semantics here with you. If you didn’t vote against a Nazi, you are a Nazi.

          If you don’t speak out against Nazis, you’re a fucking Nazi.

          Fuck Nazis.

          See? That’s easy. How about you try?

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            Oh I don’t like Nazis either. But his political campaign isn’t built on Hitler’s. It’s a pretty stock modern campaign that had better messaging than the Democrats. And before you accuse me of liking his messaging, he won the election. So it was better messaging.

            Calling everyone who doesn’t vote for the Democrats a Nazi just isn’t a winning message. That may seem weird to you but all everyone else hears is that you don’t know what a Nazi is, and you’re just throwing a word around.

            Especially this new transitive power of being a Nazi by doing nothing. Even in the aftermath of World War 2 you weren’t considered a Nazi without a party number. By the time you’re done accusing people of being Nazis by the transitive power, everyone, yourself included, will be a Nazi. After all, you might accidentally sit at a table with one and then poof, you magically get an evil fashion sense.

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              Oh I don’t like Nazis either. But his political campaign isn’t built on Hitler’s. It’s a pretty stock modern campaign that had better messaging propaganda than the Democrats. And before you accuse me of liking his messaging propaganda, he won the election. So it was better messaging propaganda.

              fixed it. The fact that you’re calling it “messaging”, tells me all I need to know about you.

              Calling everyone who doesn’t vote for the Democrats a Nazi just isn’t a winning message. That may seem weird to you but all everyone else hears is that you don’t know what a Nazi is, and you’re just throwing a word around.

              I’m not calling anyone who didn’t vote for Democrat a Nazi. I’m calling anyone who didn’t perceive Trump as a fascist threat, and voted against the obvious choice, a Nazi. Either you understood the threat that Donald Trump poses to continuing American life as we know it, or you actively supported him being in power. There will no other options but Harris and Trump. There’s no gray area. It’s pretty black and white. You either vote against the fascist, or you support the fascist.

              Especially this new transitive power of being a Nazi by doing nothing. Even in the aftermath of World War 2 you weren’t considered a Nazi without a party number.

              Technically German citizens didn’t do anything for the rise of power of Hitler. People still make jokes about how Germans are Nazis. 99% of the population there wasn’t even alive for World War II. The shame was immeasurable and impacted Germany economically and psychologically as a culture. Why would there be shame if they weren’t ashamed of what they did? And if they were ashamed, that means they’re guilty. Guilty of what? Being a Nazi.

              I wonder how the prisoners in the concentration camps after World War II felt when they went back home and their neighbors knew where they were and still they did nothing. Do you think that they… understood their neighbors weren’t Nazis? Do you think they cared? I don’t.

              By the time you’re done accusing people of being Nazis by the transitive power, everyone, yourself included, will be a Nazi. After all, you might accidentally sit at a table with one and then poof, you magically get an evil fashion sense.

              One does not “accidentally sit at a table of Nazis”. When you find out the table is Nazis, you fuck up the table.

              Whenever I find out somebody’s a Nazi, I punch them in the face as hard as I possibly can. There’s no delay. There’s no guilt. Believe it or not, a fist straight to the face. Today, I’m proud to say, my daily life is 100% Nazi-free. I’m not sure how much longer I can keep this winning streak up though. You may willingly sit at a table with Nazis out of a sense of politeness, but I will burn that motherfucker down.

              So no, there’s not a “transitive power” on Nazis. It’s pretty cut and clear. You either are a Nazi, or you are not. Like if you voted against fascism, or not.

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                So now not only do we have to vote, we also have to guess which one is the correct one with no communication.

                And you say there’s not a transitive power here but you keep describing a transitive power. Oh and you’ve called for violence against people who just want to be left alone.

                You’re really racking up the motivations for voting.

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                  So now not only do we have to vote, we also have to guess which one is the correct one with no communication.

                  If you have to guess which one is the bad one…

                  And you say there’s not a transitive power here but you keep describing a transitive power. Oh and you’ve called for violence against people who just want to be left alone.

                  No, I’m calling for violence against Nazis. Violence against actual Nazis is always acceptable.

                  I shouldn’t have to motivate you to vote, nobody should. If you’re not motivated to vote, then you accept the ramifications of your actions.

                  We’ll come back in six months to see how you’re feeling about it all. I’m feeling that you’re probably gonna have a great time though.

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                    How are we supposed to know? You said all messaging was propaganda. So we have two names on a page. That’s it. And yes, people not voting are just trying to be left alone.

                    You’re advocating for violence against people who just want to go to work, have a beer on Friday, and feed their kids.