It’s for your own good, mind (and some Windows 11 users will get this too)
  • A new patch is being quietly pushed to Windows 10 (and 11) PCs
  • It’ll force upgrades in certain circumstances to keep the PC in support
  • This update will mean more nag prompts coming to your PC
      • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        1 个月前

        Always remember to disable secureboot and remove bitlocker before installing linux on a oem windows machine. They make it hell to remove that malware from newer machines.

        • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
          7·
          1 个月前

          Bitlocker doesn’t mean anything when you delete its partition.

          I would recommend keeping secure boot enabled if your OS supports it, and manually enrolling the key if it doesn’t. Boot chain attacks are a real concern.

          • dustyData@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            1 个月前

            Some linux installers will refuse to erase the bitlocker partition automatically. Then you have to manually erase it before running the installer.

      • Screen_Shatter@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 个月前

        I get that, and this is likely what I will do for my existing PCs. The reason I ask is three fold: 1) To save time. I don’t have a ton of spare time, so I would rather spend it gaming than messing around with wiping drives and installing stuff. 2) To encourage my friends to switch over, many of whom are less likely to spend time and effort than I am. 3) This is less important, but wouldn’t I be paying for a windows license I won’t even use? Not a fan of wasting the money, not a fan of paying Microsoft for a service I’m actively fighting to get away from.

        Nonetheless, thanks, I will try to find some time to fiddle with installing on an older machine I have and see how that goes.

        • funkajunk@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          1 个月前
          1. The actual time needed to wipe out Windows and install is under 30 minutes.
          2. See above.
          3. Prebuilt machines use OEM keys, which are $10-$20 at best - whoever you buy the system from is definitely getting a volume discount. In my opinion, a small sacrifice to be free of M$.
      • Aceticon@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        1 个月前

        And for those on the other side of the Atlantic, there are several computer shops that will just put a computed together for you without an OS.

        Here’s a random example “configure your own computer” from a computer shop in France. In this one the OS (Système d’exploitation) is not included and you have to pay extra for it.

        In my experience with custom assemblies like this the OS is never included.

        When I live in the UK at some point I’ve even used of these kind of stores there to get a custom notebook.

        It’s basically an “assemble your own computer” for people who don’t know how to do it and aren’t confident enough to try (understandable given that the parts value of a whole desktop PC adds up to at least €1000 so there generally is some fear of fucking it up if you’ve never done it before).

      • addie@feddit.ukEnglish
        1·
        1 个月前

        Writing this on a Tuxedo Pulse 14 gen 3 - great laptop, flawless Linux support and a coding workstation. Perfect for a bit of eg. Disco Elysium or Crusader Kings 3 on the go, but it’s no gaming machine; it has a lot of pixels for a Radeon 780M to push. They do have a list of gaming laptops, though, if you wanted a speciality machine?

    • mesamune@lemmy.worldEnglish
      22·
      1 个月前

      I have a system76 machine. It’s been really good with steam. Or a steam deck, it’s just a PC.

      Their laptops are not worth it if I’m honest. They have issues with the hinges. I had two of them give out. They use a very cheap plastic. But you are guaranteed no driver issues if you use PoPOS on their own machines.

    • EngineerGaming@feddit.nlEnglish
      12·
      1 个月前

      At least when it came to a laptop, I bought mine without a preinstalled OS - that is far more common than preinstalled Linux.

    • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8·
      1 个月前

      I built one — took about 4 hours once all the parts arrived. My first build. Installed Linux Mint from a flash drive and it worked perfectly. Ended up switching to Zorin OS later — also works fine.

      I have been able to play every game I wanted, except one requiring a VR headset.

        • phoneymouse@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          1 个月前

          Didn’t really try. Couldn’t get SteamVR working without lots of hacking. I ended up buying a smaller second hard drive and installing windows just for that use. Once I was done with that game, I haven’t booted into Windows since, as there is no reason to.

    • bitwolf@lemmy.oneEnglish
      2·
      1 个月前

      System76, Dell, HP.

      That said, I feel it’s very worth taking an evening to backup and install yourself

    • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
      1·
      1 个月前

      As others have mentioned, it’s incredibly easy to install yourself. You just need a flash drive and another device with internet access.

      If you’re gaming, I’m using Garuda Dragonized, which is set up for gaming. I’ve liked it and seen many others like it too. Regardless, KDE is probably the DE you want if you’re coming from Windows, but there are plenty of others you may prefer.

      You probably can’t get it pre-installed, which I think is probably monopolistic if the only OS choice presented to customers is Windows. That’s how it’s spread so far, not because it’s easier. The issue with pre-installing is they’d either have to let you choose from a ton of options or just limit your choices. It’s easier to let the customer handle it.