I was just reading this post https://old.reddit.com/r/selfhosted/comments/1gmv76n/is_reddit_going_to_remain_the_primary_space_for/ and many barely see the fediverse as an alternative and they seem to have a negative bias towards it. Super ironic when it comes to the self-hosting community. Yes, some instances are problematic, yes, some devs might have had problematic views. But it doesn’t really matter when it’s federated and FOSS. I think it’s clear-cut that the selfhosting community on Lemmy is a perfect alternative to reddit. Why is there such a negative bias?

  • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    30·
    5 days ago

    Devs are allegedly Marxist-Leninists.

    Redditors dont understand that devs dont exactly have full control of open source software, that different instances are not operated by the devs.

    Edit: Lemmy devs to be specific

    • FundMECFSResearchEnglish
      36·
      5 days ago

      Alledgedly?

      Marxist Leninst is a nice way to put it, they support Putin, Xi. Zhedong and Stalin.

      Thankfully as you say, it’s FOSS with free federation and defederation. Admins only have control over lemmy.ml.

    • Jumuta@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      31·
      5 days ago

      I don’t get the hate against the lemmy devs tbh, they have their (perhaps controversial) political views but they leave everyone that’s not on their site alone and it feels like they develop lemmy pretty impartially

      sure they might ban you off ml but that’s their site and they get to do whatever they want with it, just like every other instance

      i mean network effect is a thing i guess but that’s not as important on lemmy where there are usually similarly large communities about generic things on most major instances

      • IninewCrow@lemmy.caEnglish
        26·
        5 days ago

        Exactly … it’s also a double standard because reddit is basically a capitalist model of the same digital system but no one ever complains or criticizes it.

        The socialist digital creators built something and shared it freely with everyone and also don’t exert control over anyone.

        The capitalist digital creatures built something and locked it up, monetized it and are using the user’s efforts as the basis for the business only the owners make money on and have complete control over everything.

        It’s amazing because it’s a fantastic metaphor for the two platforms.

    • r00ty@kbin.life
      14·
      5 days ago

      Pretty sure that’s only true about Lemmy. There are other threadiverse apps. The mistake is people calling the threadiverse lemmy.

      • FundMECFSResearchEnglish
        12·
        5 days ago

        Yep, though the alternatives are not quite there yet software wise, but MBin and Piefed aren’t that far behind…

        • r00ty@kbin.life
          7·
          5 days ago

          I’m on a pretty old version of mbin (I have some modifications I made for federation issues back when it was kbin). I need to spend a weekend to pilot an upgrade and make sure I can run it safely live.

          But even then it’s better in some ways already and I never feel like I’m missing something from lemmy. But I think just calling the whole thing lemmy puts off people that are seeing things through a political lens.

          • originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com
            5·
            5 days ago

            yep. as an mbin cheerleader, i evaluated both and kbin was better looking and perfectly functional from the start. no app required. no custom user-land css.

            but what really bothers me is the conflation of lemmy and fediverse. theyre used almost interchangeably. other platforms get lost in the discussion.

    • cabbage@piefed.socialEnglish
      11·
      5 days ago

      Also there are plenty of alternatives. Both PieFed and Mbin are perfectly fine platform with, as far as I know, no tankie developers associated with them.