Trump will make history as the 45th and now 47th president, NBC News projects, saying he will fix an ailing country and despite warnings he will rule as an authoritarian.
Then we get who knows how many years of slightly less dramatic but significantly worse christo-fascist Vance. The US is fucked and it’s going to take a big chunk of the world with it.
Vance lacks the cult of personality, though. With Trump out of the picture, his former loyalists will scramble and turn on one another to fill the power vacuum.
You are unbearably naive. There will be an ellection in 4years then u can have the most important ellection in american history for the 46th time in a row.
The first step towards authoritarian is the revocation of free speach. The only people trying to control that as of present are the left. Ill start listening to what u have to say the second trump bans people speaking their minds in public or puts american citizens people in concentration camps.
if you don’t remember, let me refresh your memory; trump was calling news outlets he didn’t agree with as “fake news”, and even went as far as kicking them out of press conferences in favour of his “approved” journalists.
undermining journalism is how your boy hitler started to rise to power.
if you don’t consider that an impingement on free speech, and you’d rather wait until he does it to the rest of the citizens, then i really have no more words for you.
Free speach is everyone right (yes even the people u dont like) trump can call whoever he wants fake news thats him exercising his free speach.
He can kick em out thats not violating their right to write and say whatever the fuck they want.
Would you consider the government asking twitter to kindly remove a true story from circulation because it would reflect negatively on said stories fathers political endeavours a violation of frew speach or ellection interference?
Why do you think there would a formal revocation of free speech if US did slide into authoritarian, non-democratic rule? This seems counter inuitive. Why bring attention to such a topic if your goal is limiting free speech, surely you would use other more subtle methods to achieve such a goal (again this topic is well researched and you can easily find out how it works if you are actually acting in good faith). Russia (and I believe even China) formally has free speech.
And what makes you think people in the US would oppose trump jailing political opponents (or let alone have the capability do anything about it)? No one is going to openly say that person X is going to jail because he opposes Trump/his backers. You would find some other reason that is easy to market to local plebs? No?
Why do you think there would a formal revocation of free speech if US did slide into authoritarian, non-democratic rule? This seems counter inuitive. Why bring attention to such a topic if your goal is limiting free speech, surely you would use other more subtle methods to achieve such a goal (again this topic is well researched and you can easily find out how it works if you are actually acting in good faith). Russia (and I believe even China) formally has free speech.
Exactly u would be way morw subtle like pressuring all the social media sites where a majority of conversation takes place to remove certain information.
And what makes you think people in the US would oppose trump jailing political opponents (or let alone have the capability do anything about it)? No one is going to openly say that person X is going to jail because he opposes Trump/his backers. You would find some other reason that is easy to market to local plebs? No?
What do u think trumps felonies are? Attempts to jail a political opponent? Righfully earned for hiding the fact he paid of a hooker? Didnt Arnold Schwarzenegger do the same thing?
Am I being unreasonable in my line of thinking?
Not at all u just need to make the final connection
Maybe not about elections, per se, but I think you forgot what happened between 2016 to 2020. Almost every day news headlines were like “Trump tweets dumb thing”, “Trump announces dumb thing”, “Trump does dumb thing”. This election period was quieter on the scale of things compared to then, and we’re headed right back for it.
The internet will finally shut the fuck about about the presidential ellection.
First time, eh?
Nar i just turned my filters off i can handle 1 days worth.
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Nah, we’re in for another 4 years of nonstop Trump drama like before.
SCOTUS already effectively made him a king. The notion that we’ve got only four years of drama is incredibly optimistic.
I’m hoping he just keels over by then, he can’t be long for this world at his age and at his health.
Then we get who knows how many years of slightly less dramatic but significantly worse christo-fascist Vance. The US is fucked and it’s going to take a big chunk of the world with it.
Vance lacks the cult of personality, though. With Trump out of the picture, his former loyalists will scramble and turn on one another to fill the power vacuum.
Yeah but thats more entertaining than listening to whiny bitches claiming that the other side is hitler while symultaniously bombing gaza.
Oh man.
You just got a lifetime of it. No end in sight this time.
You are unbearably naive. There will be an ellection in 4years then u can have the most important ellection in american history for the 46th time in a row.
That’s not necessarily true. Russia holds elections as well, doesn’t mean they are free and fair.
It’s pretty naive to think that the US cannot become a de facto non-democratic state.
Well im very confident it will remain as free and fair in future elections as it currently is. May even get more fair if he introduces voter id.
I think your confidence in this is exactly why it can happen.
This is not some sort of secret knowledge, the topic of democracies sliding into de facto authoritarianism is a well researched topic.
And the mode by which this happens is often slow and steady, largely driven by complacency and corruption.
The first step towards authoritarian is the revocation of free speach. The only people trying to control that as of present are the left. Ill start listening to what u have to say the second trump bans people speaking their minds in public or puts american citizens people in concentration camps.
if you don’t remember, let me refresh your memory; trump was calling news outlets he didn’t agree with as “fake news”, and even went as far as kicking them out of press conferences in favour of his “approved” journalists.
undermining journalism is how your boy hitler started to rise to power.
if you don’t consider that an impingement on free speech, and you’d rather wait until he does it to the rest of the citizens, then i really have no more words for you.
Free speach is everyone right (yes even the people u dont like) trump can call whoever he wants fake news thats him exercising his free speach.
He can kick em out thats not violating their right to write and say whatever the fuck they want.
Would you consider the government asking twitter to kindly remove a true story from circulation because it would reflect negatively on said stories fathers political endeavours a violation of frew speach or ellection interference?
It’s not the left banning books, dipshit.
Nope, instead they just call up big tech social media and say please censor these posts because the WHO says so
Its not trump either is it?
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Thats not good faith disscussion thats just insulting me. Im here to have a disscussion about politics not to through insults at eachother.
Why do you think there would a formal revocation of free speech if US did slide into authoritarian, non-democratic rule? This seems counter inuitive. Why bring attention to such a topic if your goal is limiting free speech, surely you would use other more subtle methods to achieve such a goal (again this topic is well researched and you can easily find out how it works if you are actually acting in good faith). Russia (and I believe even China) formally has free speech.
And what makes you think people in the US would oppose trump jailing political opponents (or let alone have the capability do anything about it)? No one is going to openly say that person X is going to jail because he opposes Trump/his backers. You would find some other reason that is easy to market to local plebs? No?
Am I being unreasonable in my line of thinking?
Exactly u would be way morw subtle like pressuring all the social media sites where a majority of conversation takes place to remove certain information.
What do u think trumps felonies are? Attempts to jail a political opponent? Righfully earned for hiding the fact he paid of a hooker? Didnt Arnold Schwarzenegger do the same thing?
Not at all u just need to make the final connection
Maybe not about elections, per se, but I think you forgot what happened between 2016 to 2020. Almost every day news headlines were like “Trump tweets dumb thing”, “Trump announces dumb thing”, “Trump does dumb thing”. This election period was quieter on the scale of things compared to then, and we’re headed right back for it.
Yeah thats just the worlds best reality tv show. The ellection is just propaganda bots screaming at eachother.