> Greta Thunberg > @GretaThunberg
[https://x.com/GretaThunberg/status/1852331823428247927] > > #UsaElection
#USA2024 #StopArminglsrael #FreePalestine #ClimateJusticeNow > > This year we
have seen many defining elections all over the world. On November 5th, It is
time for one of the most powerful countries in the world — the USA — to go to
the polls. It is probably Impossible to overestimate the consequences this
specific election will have for the world and for the future of humanity. > >
There is no doubt that one of the candidates — Trump — is way more dangerous
than the other. But no matter if Trump or Harris wins, the USA — a country built
on stolen land and genocide on indigenous people -will soll be an imperialist
hyper-capitalist world power that will ultimately continue to lead the world
further into a racist, unequal world with an ever increasingly escalating
climate- and environmental emergency. > > With this in mind, my main message to
Americans is to remember that you cannot only settle for the least worst option.
Democracy is not only every four years on election day, but also every hour of
every day in between. You cannot think you have done “enough’ only by voting,
especially when both those candidates have blood on their hands. Lets not forget
that the genocide in Palestine is happening under the Biden and Harris
administration, with American money and complicity. It is not in any way
'feminist.” “progressive” or “humanitarian” to bomb innocent children and
civilians — it is the opposite, even It it is a woman in charge. And this is of
course one example among many of American imperialism. I cannot for my life
understand how some can even pretend to talk about humanitarian values, without
even questioning their own role In further deepening global oppression and
massacres of entire countries. > > So, Americans, you must do everything in your
power to call out this extreme hypocrisy and the catastrophic consequences
American Imperialism has on a global scale. Be uncomfortable, fill the streets,
block, organise, boycott, occupy, explicitly call out those in power whose
actions and Inaction lead to death and destruction. Join and support those who
are resisting and leading the change. Nothing less will ever be acceptable.
Mod of !anarchism@slrpnk.net posts a great Greta Thunberg quote, but then tries to use it to justify not voting in the upcoming US election
Multiple people point out that’s very clearly not what she meant
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Using your mod powers to decide who is allowed and not allowed to speak is not very anarchist of you, @mambabasa@slrpnk.net
Wikipedia says it is “a political philosophy and movement that is against all forms of authority and seeks to abolish the institutions it claims maintain unnecessary coercion and hierarchy.”
No they aren’t. Anarchists would be spending most of their time talking about direct action on behalf of Palestine, promoting individual freedoms and climate policies… you know, anarchist stuff.
Focusing all of your attention and energy on the 2024 US presidential election, but then saying that the most important thing to talk about is that election, and in particular not voting in it, is a suspicious thing for an anarchist to do. It sounds like this person is not an anarchist, and doesn’t especially care about the Palestinians who are almost guaranteed to suffer an increased calamity even above their present holocaust if Trump gets his hand on power. It sounds like this person’s “anarchism” begins and ends with how important it is not to vote for Kamala Harris.
That sounds pretty electoral to me. It doesn’t sound anarchist. Greta Thunberg’s actual statement sounded great to me. The only thing I ever objected to was taking the first few sentences of it, retelling only that part of her statement except flipped around 180 degrees backwards, and then going banhammer-happy when a bunch of people said that that’s clearly not what she meant.
I know one anarchist who used his authority to tell his software to coerce me into not being able to post anymore. I think your lecture should be more properly directed at him.
I personally feel that I’m allowed to object to people’s conduct when it impacts me, whether or not I am an anarchist or have “earned it” or whatever you are thinking should be a precondition before I can do that.
I don’t think you know what anarchism is
Wikipedia says it is “a political philosophy and movement that is against all forms of authority and seeks to abolish the institutions it claims maintain unnecessary coercion and hierarchy.”
so you can see by pushing back on advocacy for the ruling hegemony, they are being anarchists
No they aren’t. Anarchists would be spending most of their time talking about direct action on behalf of Palestine, promoting individual freedoms and climate policies… you know, anarchist stuff.
Focusing all of your attention and energy on the 2024 US presidential election, but then saying that the most important thing to talk about is that election, and in particular not voting in it, is a suspicious thing for an anarchist to do. It sounds like this person is not an anarchist, and doesn’t especially care about the Palestinians who are almost guaranteed to suffer an increased calamity even above their present holocaust if Trump gets his hand on power. It sounds like this person’s “anarchism” begins and ends with how important it is not to vote for Kamala Harris.
That sounds pretty electoral to me. It doesn’t sound anarchist. Greta Thunberg’s actual statement sounded great to me. The only thing I ever objected to was taking the first few sentences of it, retelling only that part of her statement except flipped around 180 degrees backwards, and then going banhammer-happy when a bunch of people said that that’s clearly not what she meant.
when you are an anarchist, you will get to tell exactly one anarchist what their praxis should be
I know one anarchist who used his authority to tell his software to coerce me into not being able to post anymore. I think your lecture should be more properly directed at him.
I personally feel that I’m allowed to object to people’s conduct when it impacts me, whether or not I am an anarchist or have “earned it” or whatever you are thinking should be a precondition before I can do that.
you can personally object, but all I hear is this