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I actually had “an entire country fails the Bechdel test” on my 2024 bingo card.
I mean…yeah. They ARE waging an all out war on women. It’s the literal taliban. What did you expect?
Oh, hold on, I’m getting a telegram from 1939. It appears as if a Jewish woman in Germany is having a disagreement of opinions with one “Adolph Hitler”. Seems this Hitler fellow isn’t a fan of the Jews…
I don’t know about you but I think that Hitler fellow sounds like a bad egg.
He’s a little sus.
The UK newspaper the Daily Mail had a headline titled ‘Hurrah for the Blackshirts!’. Are you telling me the Daily Mail lies?
The more I hear about this Hitler guy, I tell ya
*Adolf.
Wait, really? That’s an even dumber name that I thought it was already! Normally I’d feel bad for spelling a persons name wrong…but it’s literally hitler. Excuse me while I feel no sympathy for insulting one of the biggest facists in history.
I disagree, it was a common German first name until he ruined it.
Though you should keep insulting him, the methhead “war strategist” deserves it.
Project 2025 energy.
“The world has abandoned us,” she added. “They left us to the Taliban, and whatever happens to us now is a result of Western government policies.”
Hear hear.
So, now we WANT America to perpetually occupy Afghanistan?
Yes, that’s the only option. It’s always occupation or no occupation. No other options exist. /s
I mean, yes?
There are literally no other options than occupation or no occupation.What are you, a robot? Or are you from the USA? Only seeing black and white.
we wanted them not to occupy it in the first place.
i think everyone is at loss on how to fix it now.
I wish the US had spent its efforts and resources towards completely eliminating the Taliban as an institution and ideology rather than kind of shoveling money around to opportunists with no skills for organizing people or maintaining loyalty. I think what happened instead was that the US was afraid of sparking a new movement that would eventually operate outside of its control so it funded what it thought it could control: rich assholes.
And now the religious fascists are back in charge. Wheee.
Well, there’s also that bit where we funded fundamentalists during the cold war to try and fuck with the soviets, and the imperialism we and the soviets did that led to radicalization. A problem that we exacerbated which bit us back in the ass a few decades later.
And now the other countries are trying to do similar to us lol.
Saudi was the one who built all the madrassas that created fundie fanatics.
American occupation actually strengthened the Taliban compared to before the US came, so America does bear some responsibility for this. Left to their own devices, the Taliban would’ve likely collapsed under their own weight, but now it’s likely they’ll stick around for while because of Chinese support.
Do you see that collapse coming now that the Taliban have total control? Because that was the situation before the US invaded. We should have smashed Al Qaeda and then left, telling them that from now on, we’ll leave you alone as long as you leave us alone.
Do you see that collapse coming now that the Taliban have total control?
I mean I did say they now have Chinese support where at the time they’d have been more or less on their own.
Because that was the situation before the US invaded.
Untrue. The pre-2001 Taliban saw fierce resistance from the North Afghan Alliance, among others, and didn’t control all the country’s territory. Compare to now where there’s no meaningful resistance to their reign of terror.
Since when is it the world’s responsibility to save you from your superstitions?
The US invasion strengthened the Taliban and basically killed native resistance to their regime, so the US does bear some responsibility for this.
Since when is it the world’s responsibility to explain shit to you?
It feels like the Taliban is just passing more and more ridiculous subjugation laws to try and get the west to attack them again so that they can go back to riding camels and shooting AKs with their ‘brothers’ instead of enduring the hell of office work and family life that is modern society.
They are totally free to do that now without the US attacking them. Hopefully the US has learned the lesson that Afghanistan is not worth invading nor “saving”.
…And how… pray tell… do they… plan to enforce this?
Violence
Definitely violently too.
They’ll unleash such violent violence that women’s voice won’t ever again.
U.S. conservatives furiously taking notes…
Controversial statement: We shouldn’t have left.
Actually, US occupation of Afghanistan was a huge waste of money. We should have settled for, leave us alone and we will leave your wretched bronze age asses alone. Fuck with us and we will kill you all.
Uh huh…
How long until they run of of ideas and just ban all women entirely
Do we have a credible source?
Yes
The Telegraph is the British Conservative Party’s media wing. I’m not saying this isn’t true, but it would come better from someone else.
Hmmm Ground News says it has only been reported by the right so far
Oh I didn’t know. I thought they were legit.
Just because they’re conservative doesn’t mean they’re publishing falsehoods. Just be on the lookout for bias, which you should for all media.
For example, the oppression of women in Afghanistan is probably being reported on more by conservative sources not because they are against the oppression of women, but because they’re hawks who disagreed with leaving Afghanistan, and there’s probably some anti-muslim sentiment motivating it as well. Likewise liberal media sources are probably ignoring it because leaving Afghanistan the way America did was largely considered to be a disaster which was finalized under a Democratic administration, and for all their talk of caring about women they did basically abandon half the population of an entire nation. It would probably not help their side of the current election cycle to shine light on the catastrophic fallout of one of Biden’s major international policy decisions.
Also, remember its a conservative trap to blame the terrible withdrawal on Biden. Bush started that war with no objective and no end plan. It’s been sitting there waiting for a one-termer to have the political freedom to call time.
Again. I said I didn’t necessarily think it was false just because it’s in the Telegraph, but neither am I going to trust it to be true.
Which one would that be?
I see this as just another step towards the extremes of ridiculousness that is fundamentalist Islamic religion. Imagine being so disconnected from existence, and being so hypnotised by words, that you would subjugate those in your culture who, through their natural virtue, embody the positive characteristics of the very god they describe and worship such as love, compassion, acceptance, understanding, yeilding, giving etc.
If only this sort of dangerous nonsense were the purview of just fundie Muslims. Fundie Christians would and will do the same things should they gain absolute power.
Right. Margaret Atwood based the Handmaid’s Tale as a combination of things that have happened somewhere, and she arguably didn’t go far enough.
Predicting in 20 years, all afghani women have super deep voices because they only ever hear men speak
religion doing what religion does… men doing what men do…
What is the news!?
Is the government over there closeted homosexuals or what?
They seem to fit the bill pretty well based off the R politicians getting doxxed on Grindr.
