• adr1an@programming.dev
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    Dear all, please remember that engaging with trolls can get you banned (rule of thumb, half the time the offender gets for themselves)

    Write what you want others to read, I don’t care if there are disagreements. But go get a private chat room if you want to exchange insults with them :)

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    Go for it. That’s one of the benefits of being FOSS, and other countries have their own versions of Linux already (that meet whatever dumb authoritarian rules are required).

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      Yeah this is called blowback, like with the chip sanctions, like with industrial and natural resource sanctions. Trying to besiege economies that industrially dwarf the US will make R&D spending skyrocket in the targeted states, and the remaining irreplacable western monopolies will suffer for it, US NGO+academic+corporate domination of the open source scene is something that every gadget using or programming person should hope goes away.

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            Nah thinking that Russia gonna somehow grow using inexistent money for R&D and compete with US(?) Is pretty moronic also calling them forking the kernel as “blowback” it was clear for everyone that they would do that, except Lemmy.ml I guess, so yes I like my echo chamber of less delusional people

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              It’s ‘nonexistent’, and if you think that software development is fundamentally out of reach for financial reasons you have no idea how either their finances or open source development operates. Besides, shouldn’t you be talking about how they will need to rely on the Perfidious Chinese? No you just can’t even imagine poorer countries having hardware or developers.

              You really show your inferiority complex by relying on jingoism, not just nationally, but to the point of trying to turn ActivityPub homeservers into an upvote gang turf war. Just discuss what is happening and try not to get too worked up over taking in explanations.

              If you’ve ignored how many industries the US has fallen out of competition with internationally, then I could see being surprised by this. Semiconductors are a lot more challenging than software R&D and both China and Russia have rapidly overtaken the US market for low end chips, they will now own the market for chips for appliances and military hardware until the US system stops being a financial racket (not soon LOL). India has no problem getting into packaging and testing of chips and software development, they haven’t scratched the surface of nuclear or semiconductors like China and Russia. You just don’t pay much attention.

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                  See, you can’t refute anything I’m saying. It’s pure jingoism all the way down. Everyone you disagree with is a foreign enemy and a robot.

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        Wow sounds like great news for Russia and a huge win for them then, I’m sure their internet trolls are supporting this decision instead of crying about it all over the internet, right??

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        Pick GDP, manufacturing output or whatever metric and look it up: Russia is not even close to the US. China is the one playing in the same league as the Americans.

        As for open source being dominated by the US, the stats for Linux development don’t give that portrait at all.

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        I dunno about all that… but I guess it’s a positive that you’re at least acknowledging that this is about sanctions and not racism or some other stupid bullshit.

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    regardless, a country should maintain their own fork regardless if its being used for government computers.

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      As lower income economies develop more tech there will be more public open source initiatives like in the EU, but with a decidedly different focus.

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    Oh man I fucking called this one, as soon as I read that article a few days ago saying that the Russian maintainers were removed from the kernel, I’m like man if Russia was smart right now they would do a country-funded version, this is completely legal as well under the licensing of the current kernel.

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        Honestly I started writing a comment asking why it was dumb, and started writing points why it would be good, then came to the same conclusion that it was dumb. The amount of money they would have to put in to make it good is more than they can afford.

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    I would be very surprised if such a fork would diverge from Linux. I would guess that this would be little more than a branch with (most likely) support for Russian hardware. Just my hunch.

    A legitimate hard fork doesn’t seem particularly smart to me, but what do I know…

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      It’s not about a divergent featureset, it’s about making sure Russian businesses can continue to legally use Linux if the US decides to make that the next step

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      “I’d just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, Rus/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Russian Federation plus GNU plus Linux minus Linus.”

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      This will only show the idiots over at Western governments that FOSS is hurr durr bad, lets Ruskies evade sanctions