• ToastedPlanetOP
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    24 hours ago

    I mean, I addressed the second and third sections. The statements in the first section are tautological truisms. So I’m not sure what you mean.

    I largely agree with your points, just not that there is no hope for these people on a long enough timescale. This was both preventable and is fixable. We just have to give ourselves the time to fix it.

    I’m choosing to believe in people. It’s the most useful outlook I can have.

    • Em Adespoton@lemmy.ca
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      1 hour ago

      One thing that changes cultish dynamics is when someone suddenly finds themselves as part of the “out” group.

      Repealing roe v wade did this for a LOT of people who didn’t realize it until after the fact; in theory, they were happy to go along with “abortion is wrong.” But then they saw how it being illegal played out in their state, where the government didn’t just want to ban in-state abortions, but get citizens to betray anyone who, with need, went out of state for one.

      And then people started dying because doctors were afraid they’d be accused of performing an abortion. And IVF got caught up in it because of sperm and egg banks.

      And suddenly, anyone affected by any of those things (a LOT of people) were on the outside, and the targets of ostracism and veiled threats. So they started to become aware of why, even if they don’t believe in abortions, making them illegal is even worse.

      That’s the sort of thing that pushes people out of a cult.