Where did I post anything angry?
It’s just the vibe you gave off in the comments.
I understand your concern about copyright laws and the ethics of copy-pasting a paywalled article, but this was not the right way to react. By removing comments containing the article, you created a Streisand effect, where attempts to censor information only end up making people more aware of said information. If you had just ignored the comment with the full article and acted like it was no big deal, people wouldn’t have felt the need to troll you about copyright, and perhaps they might have actually discussed the topic in the article, as more people would have been able to read it.
But please don’t let this fiasco discourage you from making typography posts on Lemmy. We need more communities and engagement here. It seems you’re very passionate about this subject, and it would be a shame to see you leave. I’m sorry about the trolls from Hexbear, but again this wasn’t the right way to respond to this.
Hopefully we can forgive and forget.
I know why they did it. I’m just not going to be bullied by anti-social trolls who are here for the wrong reasons. And I’ll continue talking about typography because it’s fun and interesting. Thanks.
“It’s your fault we behaved the way we did.”
ml: We’re going to tear down the whole capitalistic structure, nothing short of full revolution will suffice.
Also ml: Hey stop! You’re gonna get me in trouble!
I do the same thing when people post full text, but I’m also not claiming to be anti-establishment. I want online newspapers to make a living and survive, that’s why I do it.
You’re gonna get me in trouble!
Who wrote this?
Nobody. As someone rightly pointed out, the mod’s concern is purely for the ethical issues, which is the same concern I would have in that situation.
Also, the original post’s modlog is getting hilarious. Hexbear users are coming in and repeatedly posting the full text, which the mod is soberly removing over and over. It’s almost as if telling an entire community that they’re privileged to go and start trouble wherever they feel like will create a toxic environment.
The thread was locked several hours ago because it was all just talking about talking, not talking about the actual topic. Unfortunately, several comments deliberately broke the Code of Conduct here and it seems like they were all from Hexbear users (which is something I had never heard of, I guess it’s an instance where there’s no expectation to be civil and maybe anti-social behavior is explicitly rewarded?).
Newspapers should post full color porn in their papers. Print media wouldn’t be dying if you could get tits delivered to your doorstep daily!
I see you’re familiar with The Sun.
As he should. I think people forget that posting the full text of an article opens up the instance admins to legal issues. News articles are copyrighted; just because it’s easy to copy and paste doesn’t mean it’s legal to do so, and you put your instance at risk by doing it. The mod also doesn’t seem that angry; looks like maybe OP is adding their own spin here.
Looks like the commenters are all just Hexbear trash being typical Hexbear trash. Just the standard “intellectual property doesn’t exist because I don’t like it” bullshit.
What legal issues are you suggesting here? Where’s the precedent for that? Supreme Court case after Supreme Court case have shown that websites cannot be held accountable for the comments of its users. A plain text quoting of an article would be extremely hard to tie to the administrators website. Much less anybody.
This is just an extremely panicky response that has no basis in reality.
Supreme Court case after Supreme Court case have shown that websites cannot be held accountable for the comments of its users.
You’re thinking of Section 230, which doesn’t have a lot to do with copyright. This is more involving the DMCA.
One endpoint it could wind up at would be some outlets starting to send DMCA takedown notices to Lemmy instances in the US. That wouldn’t be ideal, and it probably wouldn’t
startstop once it started, however much anybody tried to put the horse back in the barn at that point.Edit: Words are hard
How on Earth would a dmca cover this? There’s no copyrighted involved.
Every so often I get reminded that Lemmy puts me talking with people who have no idea what they’re talking about, and are just confidently making random statements that line up with what they want to be true at that moment.
Yes, Virginia, online news articles are copyrighted.
