hello,

im really tired of google music and spotify, and want to self host my downloaded music and create my library.

however, i know nothing about self hosting. My knowledge is absolutely zero. And Im completely lost about how to self host my own music. Dont find any good tutorial for dummies and i have a lot of question. I dont understand nothing. I see the tutorials of Navidrome and Ampache and still understand nothing. All of that looks extremely complicated to me.

How can i self host my music? I need to pay something? A very old and slow pc is enough?

Im completely lost. If someone can suggest something - like a tutorial , dunno - to build/self host my own music I appreciate a lot.

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    • windowsphoneguy@feddit.org
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      11 hours ago

      Or just run Jellyfin on your desktop and sync the phone app from time to time. Finamp even allows downloads, so no connection to the server needed at all times.

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    What I’ve been doing:

    Easy option: because I only have around 40gb of music, I sync it between my PC and my phone using syncthing since 128gb is the minimum nowadays

    Hard option: streaming is cooler so I installed nextcloud with an optional plugin called “music” which allows to connect an app called “ultramusic” and it becomes “self hosted Spotify” with android auto support and all the bells and whistles. Disadvantage: Nextcloud is a moving target. For some reason they have to release new incompatible versions every two or three months. So for plugin developers this is a very annoying upgrade threadmill that eventually leads to burnout and that plugin dies. Even officially supported plugins sometimes don’t support the latest version when they launch it. If you choose to use nextcloud with docker, make sure to stay behind 1-2 versions (tag nextcloud:28 when nextcloud:30 is released) or your plugins might suddenly break without any warning. According to fanboys this is the industry standard nowadays and it’s up to the user to manually check the GitHub issues of each of the 30 plugins if it’s compatible before updating. Even if it’s official plugin. They call it “stable” but they mean “beta testing for the paid enterprise version”.

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    Skimmed comments, but if you download and manage your music on your own on a machine you can have a super simple setup like I do. All music is synced using Syncthing to my phone. So my phone gets local storage, and then I use Poweramp (android) to play it.

    I pretty much have a folder for all the music though. But I assume you can sort music into folders to have them as playlists. But perhaps not as practical as desired.

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    I use a Plex server and the PlexAmp app wherever I want to listen. There are probably better options, but it’s something I set up years ago which was dead simple and requires almost no maintenance.

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      PlexAmp is an amazing bit of software for a phone. It doesn’t translate well to the desktop, but it’s still pretty good.

      Your flacs will play lossless on wifi, and transcode to 128kbps opus on mobile. You can tweak those settings too.

      Most smart TVs have a native plex app available too.

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      Plexamp is the best music service I’ve ever used and it’s a great way to get into self hosting. Once it’s set up why not add some tv and movies?

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        Agh Plex always rubs me the wrong way… It acts like closed source software as much as is possible. Went with Jellyfin and it’s been great. But haven’t tried music.

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          I actually plan on switching to Jellyfin soon but I think I’ll keep Plex running just for Plexamp

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            Take a look at the Finamp desktop client. It comes very close to the Plexamp client from back when I was using Plex.

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    Symphonium is a great Android music player which connects to a Subsonic or Jellyfin server (or any other protocol like SMB).

    Navidrome is a music server which implements the Subsonic protocol. This means apps like Symphonium can connect to it.


    Any old PC is enough, even a Raspberry Pi is fast enough for a music server.

    1. Install Navidrome on the server/pc
    2. Configure Navidrome (open ports, add your music library/folder)
    3. Connect a subsonic-compatible music app to to the server (I.e. type in IP or domain as well as the port).

    Anything more like SSL (https) and a domain is optional for getting it working, and only a benefit if used outside of your home network. Using Tailscale makes a domain/SSL unnecessary and also no longer needs messing around with networking (e.g. no opening ports on the router).

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      Can confirm. I have an arm board from 2010 with 256MB of RAM. it hosts music fine through minidlna and still has memory and cpu free

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      I checked out Tailscale, and my 👀 popped when I realized what it does! 😄

      I proceeded to install it on my phone, only to realize a moment later that my connection was down. I headed over to my Rethink DNS firewall and saw that Tailscale had taken over my VPN connection, causing Rethink to shut everything down (as it’s supposed to).

      Now, unfortunately, I’m probably gonna find out that Tailscale needs highly sought out for VPN slot on Android, and that I can’t use it because I’d have to drop my firewall? 🙈

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        Yes, the restriction to a single VPN client is annoying.

        Blocking ad/telemetry domains can be done by adding Adguards DNS servers in the OS settings. Sadly blocking apps Internet permissions completely is not possible (except on OS like LineageOS, CalyxOS or GrapheneOS).

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    16 hours ago

    I’m going to go another route here: do you need streaming?

    Like, I’ve simply gone with a giant pile of FLACs that I put on a SD card for my phone, and use over the NAS for when I’m at home and don’t currently use any fancy-pants streaming stuff.

    So like, depending on how you’re using your music library, you might not even need to drop deep into the giant self-hosting rabbithole for this.

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      13 hours ago

      FLACs

      on a phone

      in SD card

      ¿??? it’s not like you’re going to be able to autism at a -0.0002dB disparity on the trumpets channel with those audio chips, why not just store the files there as opus or MP3 for ~6x more capacity? (not to mention faster overall reads)

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        Because I stuck a 1TB sd card in my phone and don’t have to deal with transcoding or dealing with, well, anything, but copying new files over and listening to things.

        I’ve developed quite the liking for stupidly simple solutions, and ‘copy the files to a sd card’ is about as simple as it gets.

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            OPUS is such a delightful format

            Agreed. My audiobook library was transcoded from various formats to 32kbit OPUS and they still sound about the same.

            Shocking how decent it is with spoken voice and stupid low bitrates.

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      that I put on a SD card for my phone

      Pretty soon you won’t be able to buy a phone without expandable storage. On the plus side, internal storage is going up, but it’s still not big enough to hold a complete FLAC collection if it’s a reasonably large library. You can re-encode your library just for phone usage, but that’s a bit annoying to maintain.

      Also, I’ve found all of the offline music players on Android kind of suck, and don’t support the workflow I like or have bugs.

  • NaibofTabr@infosec.pub
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    however, i know nothing about self hosting. My knowledge is absolutely zero […] I dont understand nothing

    This is going to be a problem, unfortunately. You’ll need to define your use case first:

    • How much music do you want to have access to? Hundreds, thousands, millions of files? How large is your collection?
    • Do you have downloaded copies of all the music you want to listen to? Are they all in one place, well organized and tagged? If you just have downloads in the Spotify app, you won’t be able to use those files, you don’t actually own that music. You’ll need DRM-free audio files.
    • Where and how do you want to be able to access them? Just from one device like your phone? Many devices? Is having access at home good enough, or do you want to be able to access your collection while you’re away from home?
    • Will you be the only user?
    • What kind of budget do you have to work with?

    An old PC might be enough to act as a server, but there’s more involved and the answer to what you need depends on what exactly you want to do. You will not be able to build a personal version of Spotify with just an old PC, for instance.

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    There are lots of solutions, but as others have noted, Plex with Plexamp is great.

    I’d recommend getting a NAS for storage and running mirrored disks. This way you’ve got some redundancy in the event of a disk failure.

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    Navidrome server. Use podman. Buy a Fully qualified Internet address first, then go to cloudflare and proxy your IP to the new. Address. Finally in android install Ultrasonic or Subsonic and go to your server.

    You don’t need to have a Fully qualified Internet address. But I like it better than having to remember 55.655.67.533. but the IP address still works fine. The thing about the cloudflare proxy is that it never reveals your IP. So in case someone might be snooping around, they gotta get past cloudflare first.

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      Any chance Jellyfin and Finamp have a music playlist and mix building feature?

      Plex has this with Plexamp but I have not had a chance to look into jellyfin to see if a plugin offers something similar.

      I hate building playlists, Plex offers a few different options like sonic sage, sonic adventure, artist mix builder, and automatic mixes based on past listening history.

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    What’s wrong with just throwing MP3s on an SD card, or hard drive?

    Edit: Love how I have 4 upvotes, 4 downvotes. So a pretty divicive statement I’ve made. Yet nobody has told me why mp3s on local storage is or is not a solution for self hosting music. No opinions shared, other than angry arrows in both directions.

    Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool.

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      MP3’s are so old the patents have expired. OPUS is where it’s at it ones going for lossy music compression nowadays.

      Harddrives are a bit unpractical when listening on phones.

      And please don’t throw music onto storage devices, it’s better to transfer them.

      Better?

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    Actually, I’m gonna add another really simple option: Lyrion (Formerly Logitech Media Server). My wife swears by this one, supports local library, integrates with LastFM, and if you use Tidal, Qobuz, Deezer, or Spotify, you can integrate your streaming service with your local library for radio mixes.

    Can install it right on a laptop or PC and connect to wherever your music is (local on the machine, on a NAS, etc.). After you install it, you can access it directly via a web browser or webapp, which will make it accessible from desktop or phone.

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      +1000 for Lyrion. Easily the best experience I’ve ever had with streaming music

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    There are two main ways you can do it. You’ve already mentioned you have your library/music files, so that’s a good start, you’re basically looking for a way to access it on other devices. The first way would be to set up an old PC/rent a cloud server, and set up the service you want to use, though for now this may be a bit too complex if all you want to do is stream your own music, and have no experience. That being said, it’s always good to have a look and see, there may be a tutorial that works for you if you want to go down this route.

    You’ve mentioned Navidrome, and it’s a good shout, basically just looks at the folders of music you have, and lets you stream them to your phone/PC (and more) like Spotify or Google Music. For the simplest possible setup, I’d recommend a service like Pikapods (https://pikapods.com), which essentially selfhosts applications for you, and gives you access to the files. For Navidrome, for 50GB storage (and the recommended settings of 1 CPU core and 0.5GB RAM), it’s $3.01 a month, which, though not free, is very affordable if that’s all you want to do, plus they handle updates, etc. You shouldn’t need to set any variables, and can upload your music to their service via FTP (File Transfer Protocol, a way to copy files to another PC/server from your PC), and they have docs on how to do that on the site.

    Hope this helps :P