I understand the concept of appealing to a better nature but, ma’am this is America. We still revere Henry Ford, we imported Nazi scientists because of some self imposed space race. Outside of WW2, (where we didn’t even voluntary join we needed to be attacked first) our history shows were far far more likely to ignore or tacitly support fascism. Be careful asking questions you don’t want the answer to Harris.
I’m not so worried about what they’re both saying as much as the fact that they’re both actively supporting a holocaust.
Sadly, politics are so f***ed up that I have to agree with something Trump has said: He can shoot someone in Times Square and not lose a single vote.
That’s what happens with cults.
As Cady Heron once famously said, “The limit does not exist.” Nothing, absolutely nothing, will cause him to lose support. The people who support him love him more than anything, and they will do whatever it takes to support him. They will break their own moral code, they will bend over backwards to make his rhetoric fit their morals, they will turn their back on everything they’ve ever known or loved if that’s what it takes to continue to support him. Because he is the most important thing in their lives.
Idk how old you are but there used to be discussions about how we can beat terrorists, a group of people who willingly kill themselves to inflict damage. How do you beat an enemy in war who views their own death as a victory?
That’s what we’re up against with trump. There is no inroad, there is no common ground, there is no logic. It’s a cult, plain and simple. How do you stop someone who wants to die for their cause? Maybe trump supporters don’t want to literally die for him, but they damn sure would give up everything else for him.
What if he shot a supporter though?
Cheney did. That friend then went on national television to apologize for being in the way of his shot.
That supporter was secretly working for the Deep State.
And he will call the family to apologize and check in… after the media calls him out for not doing so, but only after a Democrat tries to do so and is rejected because the family still supports Trump despite all that happened.
It was self-defense! It was only a matter of time before that supporter realized what Trump was really doing, and they weren’t likely to be happy about it.
Sadly, yes.
I’m really hoping “It’s a close race…” is code for “Harris is favored to win, but we rigged the polls to show them neck and neck so that there’s still a news cycle.”
I’m worried cause I see the Democrats doing the “smart” thing of finding the exact counties they need to win. And aggressively pushing and trying to play to them alone.
And that doesn’t seem like a smart strategy. In fact it feels like Hillary or Disney’s failings where playing it safe and doing “smart” math doesn’t work to do something productive and barely scrapes them by.
I don’t see this being a landslide. And I’m worried their math will mean nothing in the real world.Hopefully it’s that and not “we rigged the polls to give some credibility to whatever bs Trump is planning”.
Yes. Yes they will.
Does she really wants the answer to that or is that a joke question?
He wasn’t even a good artist.
Rich coming from administration that veto every call for ceasefire or humanitarian aid against a genocide happening life on the internet. Since start of this October people in Jabalia has been under a clear plan of genocide, burned alive in hospital beds, an no where to go.
Supporting a genocidal regime is the same as supporting hitler.
Cool but since you’re such a smarty, you know that Harris is not the head of the current regime, so only a fucking idiot would think that voting for her is tacitly giving a pass to genocide, and only a colossal idiot would think Trump is a better choice, and only a titanic idiot would abstain from voting in such a consequential election.
Since you didn’t bother even to gloss over the basics I assume you agree. On account of how very very smart and clever you are.
And you think Trump will be better? No, Jill Stein isn’t going to win.
Isn’t it common knowledge at this point that Jill Stein is literally a spoil candidate who only ever seems to exist every four years as a “I’m a Leftist, but I only have bad things to say about Democrats, what a coincidence?” candidate with an uncomfortably large amount of ties to Russia?
Well Trump is also saying good things about Genocide that’s what the article about.
Pot calling the kettle black.
this kind of rhetoric will never work against somebody who was already president. Her campaign has made a mistake, which honestly shouldn’t be big enough to crash the election but its the US and the electoral college who the fuck knows how 5000 psychopaths in swing states are going to vote after being bombarded with record breaking levels of insane propaganda…
It should be clear that the easy way to campaign on trump is to hit him hard in the economy: He had to bailout farmers because of his first round of tariffs. US steel still hasn’t recovered. Trump tariffs will not only raise prices but the resulting bailouts will drastically increase inflation and eventually he will run out of scapegoats to blame his failures on so however loyal to trump you seem to be, eventually he will blame you and send the military on you for criticizing him
I really don’t understand why neither the Harris or Biden campaign just roiled out footage of the Covid-19 lockdown in a short film titled “Literally the last time this motherfucker was in charge”
Cause ya know, that would work…
They’re holding pat with, “Hey, we’re not the other guy. And that should be enough.”
And anyone who says, well maybe that not enough, gets lambasted.
Yeah, but you could say “We’re not the other guy… who did THIS, and that should be enough.”, point out WHY the other guy is bad…
It’s “Oh yeah, we never actually asked him what he believed would make America great again… whoops.” from 2016 all over again.
In my heart of hearts, I still feel like we’re heading to a Kamela victory, but then we look at the polls…
Yes of course they will. Trumps cultists know exactly what he is and they vote for him because of that.
He sleeps with My New Order by Hitler next to his bed. Wants to be a dictator on day 1. Sees good people at a Nazi march. Wants generals like Hitler’s. By George he just may be a Nazi. - Edited
He sleeps with Mein Kampf next to his bed.
Not Mein Kampf, but rather My New Order, which is a collection of Hitler’s speeches. Trump is a fan of Hitler’s propaganda and rhetoric specifically.
But her emails, I mean but his son’s laptop, I mean…
Never did I suspect this Stephen Lynch song to not feel completely outlandish.
Didn’t Hitler’s generals try to assassinate Hitler?
Yes, but you have to remember Trump’s a “Very Stable Genius”
Per the book, [former chief of staff] Kelly explained to Trump that German generals “tried to kill Hitler three times and almost pulled it off.” “No, no, no, they were totally loyal to him,” the president is said to have responded.
…I’m not used to hearing the word “totally” in an unironic and non-sarcastic context.
Even Hitler tried to assassinate Hitler
Hitler wasn’t all bad, he did kill Hitler.
Shame he waited until the end, instead of doing it at the start though.
I really wish Fascists would just follow their leader in a “We all know where this is going, let’s just skip to the end.” sense
I can only read this guy’s name in Chris Barrie’s voice. God damn it Red Dwarf
After they started losing I believe they did.
The only good thing they did, well tried to do.
Yes, pretty sure it may have been multiple times. Rommel was implicated in one of the plots and was why he was forced to commit suicide.
Didn’t they already do that at least once?
The direct Hitler praise hadn’t come out before 2016. There were certainly many other serious red flags though.
I don’t like to judge people black on white.
Hitler did kill Hitler, so there’s something good to say about him
We are gonna elect the person enabling a holocaust like Hitler
I would argue that Trump would be way worse for Gaza, he seems to be of the mindset of “kill the weak and be done” so for him to “fix” the middle east, would probably just be to bomb the shit out of everyone until they stop fighting.
He doesn’t strike me as a great peace maker, more like a
dictator on day one
Liberals only hate him because he says the quiet things out loud. The exact same things are happening right now but it’s being done in the background so it’s tolerable for liberals to consume. They don’t care about what’s going on only that it’s presented in a pretty paackage
I don’t think you fully understand what you are saying. You are saying that Trump will be worse for Gaza and Palestine…while all of this has been happening under Biden’s administration and with his support (the constant UN vetoes and the constant selling of weapons).
The Palestinian genocide has always been happening with the blessing of the US government. From that point of view, right now both candidates are exactly as good for Palestine. As in, they are not.
Then that topic is a wash when deciding who to vote for. Trump is still worse on literally everything else.
So… Do you honestly believe that Trump would do anything to stop Israel? They’re killing Muslims, the only thing the GOP loves more than demonizing the Jewish.
So lets let Harris continue what’s actually going on so the hyperbole of what trump might do doesnt happen.
Netanyahu is actively supporting Trump because he knows he’ll enable him to be way more aggressive inside Gaza.
People that still use this are just Trump-Bots that want to seed doubt so less people vote for Harris
You must have failed history class.
Outcome is the same, lots of people dead while the US sits back and watches
Yes, surely donald “finish the job” trump will broker peace.
The weapons and money being provided by Biden/Harris is allowing them to finish the job right now.
I’m not sure that anticolonialist is saying Trump is a better choice. They might be implying that it is sad that the American populace always has to pick between two choices which cause harm, and I agree that is a situation worth mentioning.
If they explicitly reply with ‘Trump is better’, I will strongly disagree.
They’re effectively saying let’s give Trump a chance because Harris, despite having no power, is already doing a bad job. Trump being worse is hyperbole. It’s completely braindead. And I say this as someone who thinks criticizing her lack of opposition to genocide is a good thing.
America tends to elect someone representing the interests of those who have money and power. And those who have money and power seem to accept that brown foreign people have to die so they can make money selling arms.
This is terrible, but it is also normal, and also people like making money. So people will, far too often, let it slide. And when you let something like that slide, you rationalise how you’re not a bad person, so you victim blame.
This is one more reason why I am not completely unhappy about the possibility of humans ending their own existence through economic activity. Sadly, they will take many other species with them.
To use your analogy of the holocaust, we are Japan in this situation. While we can do something its so little as to be borderline fuck all. Best we could do is arrange an accident with Netanyahu, but yet again that could make it worse.
So Reagan was able to do something, Thatcher was able to do something, Baby Bush was able to do something. But Biden can’t?
Okay this is nothing more than American copium. Israel survives off American aid and trade, and threatening to cut either off would get them to back off faster than you could say genocide. This isn’t theory; it’s been done before.
The openly fascist granddaughter of Mussolini, Italian PM of Italy Meloni has now cut off weapons to Israel. Biden is to the right of an open fascist.
When something is wrong, taking a stand against it isn’t only about it being effective. It’s about showing publicly that something is wrong.
I don’t kidnap people and force them to live in my compost bin. When I hear of others acting in this way, I condemn it. Me not doing this does not effectively stop others from doing it. But I still do it, as it is my moral duty.
I believe that killing innocent people by bombing schools and hospitals is at least as bad as the action I just described.
Hard agree, but that doesn’t change the fact that voting for Harris is a better choice that either voting for Trump or not voting at all.
ML loves him.
I’m voting for harris but I had no clue about lemmy or what i was doing when I signed up lol, at least it wasn’t hexbear. I’m probably just going to stop using this website though due to the amount of people who are hostile towards me just because of something next to my name, literally some lame reddit shit, but that makes sense when you realize this website is just snobby redditors who got too snobby for reddit
Just migrate to World or Lemm.ee. Sorry people suck.
Some ml users, I’m sure, are good people.
Yeah, it sucks. I wouldn’t attribute it to a platform but just to how we are. It’s tribalism for one part, and people attributing malice to just plain ignorance. I don’t mean ignorance as a negative, but just unaware of the politics / social dynamics of the instance you decided to create an account on
Well you can migrate your account, you know, away from that pro dictatorship site and just carry on as usual.
