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      The US has been involved in probably 300 regime changes throughout the world, has invaded many countries, including those that we were not affiliated with.

      Absolutely fair point. I agree with you on this portion of your comment.

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          Wait, what?? Zelenskyy took office after being democratically elected in 2019. Russia invaded Ukraine and annexed the Crimea region of Ukraine in 2014. Your timeline does not check out there.

          • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.ml
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            Zelensky took office on the promise of normalizing relations with Donbas and Russia, and then proceeded to do the opposite. Also, wonder what happened in 2014 that might’ve provoked a response from Russia there.

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              Also, wonder what happened in 2014 that might’ve provoked a response from Russia there.

              Ukraine using its right to free association, to sign an agreement with the EU strengthening relations? Specifically including a further formalising of cooperation around Chernobyl (Euratom is independently a signatory), an issue entirely caused by Russia in the first place, who didn’t ever offer a similar level of cooperation? Is that what you’re referring too?

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                Nah, what I’m referring to is the violent coup by the far right that was openly supported by the west. Also, Russia never asked Ukraine to choose between economic association with Russia and Europe. It was western demand that Ukraine had to break economic ties with Russia. Maybe should get your facts straight so you can do more quality trolling.

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                Seems to me that you’re the one justifying genocide of people of Donbas by the fascists that took power in a violent coup backed by the west. Even western media reported on the far right problem in Ukraine and the ethnic cleansing in Donbas before the war started.

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                  ALL conflicts involve at least two sides

                  Okay then, so describe the 2 sides and the punishments they deserved during the Nazi Germany invasion of Poland/Europe and the holocaust. I hate to bring Nazis into it as an argument, but you did say “ALL” and it easily shows how ridiculous that take is.

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          So why did Russiactaje Crimera? Saying this wouldn’t have happened is BS. Russia I expected a quick and decisive victory.

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      there is simply no meaningful response to this

      no matter whether you think russia is justified in invading ukraine or not, if russians get banned from the kernel bc russia invaded ukraine, yankees have to get the boot as well

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        if russians get banned from the kernel bc russia invaded ukraine

        You should read the article because this is not a thing that has occurred, at least not yet.

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          my understanding was that the kernel didn’t publicly state any specific reason, but “complying to sanctions” semms like a safe bet to me

          in any case, whatever the reason, this removal is unfortunate and uncalled for