• Scratch@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        92·
        6 个月前

        Ok, legit though, a friend of mine started going bald in his mid 20’s. Tried growing his hair out but was eventually convinced that shaving his head was a better look.

        Then he started to really get into Melodic & Power Metal and similar sounding music.
        Then Amon Amarth. Which lead him to Norse mythology. So he gets a Mjolnir necklace. And he likes leather jackets.

        Perfectly innocent!

        And he visits some friends in Germany. Coincidentally there is an anti-nazi protest going on. This huge German dude takes one look at the pasty-white, skinhead, Norse symbol, leather jacket friend of mine and gets RIGHT UP I HIS FACE. Very intent on kicking his ass until the people he is visiting defuse the situation.

        I think it’s a funny story, at least.

        P.S. Fuck Nazis. 🖕

        • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          25·
          6 个月前

          So norse runes are nazi symbols now?

          Can we make a list of symbols that aren’t associated with nazis? How much of the Latin alphabet can we keep?

          • Bertuccio@lemmy.world
            66·
            6 个月前

            Nazis have borrowed Norse symbology since like the beginning of Nazis. Their most recognizable symbol is also borrowed from other cultures.

            Unlike the swastika, Norse symbols aren’t so strongly associated with Nazis that they’re now completely unacceptable, so some Nazis use them as a way to broadcast their interests while keeping some plausibly deniable “I just think they’re neat” shit.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
              18·
              6 个月前

              Don’t forget they also called themselves Aryan despite the Aryans being from central/south Asia. They’re generally considered to be Indo-Iranian based on where they ended up and where they started. But it flows off the tongue better to put the former first.

          • EldritchFeminity
            28·
            6 个月前

            The Nazis were super into Norse runes. Hitler legitimately thought that they held magical powers.

            I’d say I’m surprised you didn’t know that, but honestly, I’m not because there’s a lot of those kinds of things that they don’t mention when teaching about WW2. Plenty of skinhead dog whistles that I didn’t learn about until later on.

          • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world
            1·
            6 个月前

            So norse runes are nazi symbols now?

            Yeah, Nazis have been coopting our shit since the 1930s and we’re sick of it.

            Sincerely

            Far left anti-authoritarian pacifist from Denmark who likes Norse mythology.

      • BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee
        27·
        6 个月前

        I just want to put this out here because it happened to me. I’ve had a deep interest in Norse mythology since I was a child and have several tattoos featuring runes and Norse mythological imagery. I knew that Othala was a common white supremacist symbol as well as things like the sonnerad, triskele, and valknut so I avoided them.

        However, my most visible piece is a raven skull with 3 runes running down the middle. 2 of them are apparently associated with Nazi shit. Thankfully they’re obscure enough that normal people don’t assume I’m a white supremacist, but it’s dog-whistley enough that I’ve had Nazis assume I was also a Nazi and try to strike up conversations with me.

        For anyone considering getting runes, be very careful with which ones you select and how you present them. Here’s a decent list of Norse symbols that have been associated with white supremacist movements

          • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
            8·
            6 个月前

            Also the full star of chaos sometimes gets you an anarchist, sometimes a Nazi, and most likely a warhammer player. It’s a weird symbol

              • TexasDrunk@lemmy.world
                16·
                6 个月前

                It’s also why they think that everything is a bad code that they can descramble. They have these super obvious codes to signal to others and assume every other group has a code that’s just as poorly disguised. That’s how we ended up with shit like Pizzagate. If you order certain pizzas that unlocks the secret basement with the kids! It’s also why a lot of them think there’s a super secret cabal running everything.

              • frezik@midwest.social
                6·
                6 个月前

                Never got around to it, but I wanted to do a statistical search of Reddit usernames that pop up in subreddits with two or more numbers at the end. You’ll of course have lots of people with '86 or '92 because they had their birth year at the end of their username. I’m betting '88 sticks out on the bar chart. Not everyone with an '88 at the end will be a nazi, but a disproportionate number with '88 would be a hint towards what kind of people the subreddit is attracting.

                • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
                  5·
                  6 个月前

                  Wasn’t there a copypasta about someone born in the 88 and having it in the username, being called a nazi and being sad about it?

                  The punchline is that the username in question is GasTheJews88.

                • ToxicWaste@lemm.ee
                  1·
                  6 个月前

                  you also would have to normalise over all the usernames of the platform. as a number repeating itself, i would assume that it generally attracts more attention. source: i compete in team sports. after the birthyears repeating numbers are the ones most often chosen for jersey numbers.

    • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      24·
      6 个月前

      Norse runes rule.

      They don’t belong to nazis, and everybody saying otherwise is an ally of the nazis and an enemy of the people.

      Norse runes rule.

        • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
          2·
          6 个月前

          There might be an argument for adding back in thorn and such but the funny thing about the Anglo-Saxon/Germanic rune system is that it was copied and altered from Etruscan/North Italian sources in the first place!

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        6 个月前

        Oh absolutely but you kinda have to make it clear it’s not fash at the moment with them. I know a few Norse pagans and it’s a thing they get used to.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.world
      13·
      6 个月前

      I once walked into a gas station (a local one, hooray) and the guy behind the counter had a giant swastika tattoo on his arm.

      Considering the sort of management that would allow such a person to work there, I avoided that station from then on.

    • aidan@lemmy.world
      4·
      6 个月前

      Were the confederates fascist? Racist oligarchies exist before fascism as a concept existed(like the confederacy). But I think fascism also requires certain economic and political policies that idk if the CSA had.

      • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
        11·
        6 个月前

        If the Confederacy existed today you’d call it a fascist state with zero mental conflict, but Orwell actually addressed a similar situation with criticizing Kipling that he resolved by simply calling him a pre-fascist.

        No, they do not meet a technical definition of the term on a policy level, but if they’d been around in 1930 you bet your ass they’d have been babbling about Autarky and such.

      • Justas🇱🇹@sh.itjust.works
        2·
        6 个月前

        There is also a huge emphasis on military worship in fascist societies, sometimes even trying to make civilians dress and act like the military does. Which, once again, confederates didn’t do.

        • Hamartia@lemmy.world
          6·
          6 个月前

          A big problem with how people conceptulise fascism is that they only look at a couple of full grown animals. This causes them to overlook the nascent stages and to discount regional variances caused by the different environments they grew up in.

          Whether they have been propagandised to frame this perception this way because most Right Wing movements utilise fear, anger and devisiveness in a discomfortingly similar way, is worth pondering.

  • Edgarallenpwn@midwest.socialEnglish
    31·
    6 个月前

    Got a warning for a tail light being out about 15 miles from Ferguson last month. The douche had a similar tattoo to the first one. Instead of Monster can logo it was a sweet tribal design with parts of the Confederate flag mixed in. Stay classy St Charles Police department

  • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
    31·
    6 个月前

    Its absolutely awful, but I do like how they utilized the blue in the flag for the stripe. Very symbolically fitting, in a way.

      • finitebanjo@lemmy.world
        14·
        6 个月前

        Yeah look, theres a vertical strip of blue on the skull going straight down from a wonky edge of the tear which aligns with where the blue is on the flag. Also, the skulls eye socket covers where some of the red might have been in between.

        • SwordInStone@lemmy.world
          6·
          6 个月前

          thanks for the downvote, but you are wrong and this is too trivial to explain, just look at the ridges of untatooed skin

          • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
            6·
            6 个月前

            I have no idea what you’re on about. At the top of the largest piece of the earlier tattoo, there’s a ridge where it flares out, and at the base of that, it splits red on the left with blue on the right.

            On the new tattoo, at that same ridge, there’s white on the left, and the exact same blue on the right.

            Below the eye socket in the skull, the blue under that would be color matched and added, since that part of the original was red. At the same time, since they had to at least try to color match it, they may have touched up the upper part of the blue (above the eye socket), but it’s hard to tell.

            The white balance in these pictures doesn’t match, so the colors are all over the place and it’s hard to tell if they’re the same hue.

            Either way, on both, the blue line above the eye on the final tattoo does align with the blue present in the original tattoo.

            I dunno if you’re trying to say something else, but it’s clear as day if you reference the other edges of the piece, to align everything.

  • BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works
    27·
    6 个月前

    Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses
    Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses
    Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses
    Some of those that work forces
    Are the same that burn crosses
    Uh!
    […]
    Fuck you, I won’t do what you tell me

    When the first eight lines are true, but then government is still surprised_pikachu.png when the result is the last line. Smh

    Anyway woop woop people! Woop mother fucking woop!

    The overseer rode around the plantation
    The officer is off, patrollin’ all the nation
    The overseer could stop you, “What you’re doing?”
    The officer will pull you over just when he’s pursuing
    The overseer had the right to get ill
    And if you fought back, the overseer had the right to kill
    The officer has the right to arrest
    And if you fight back they put a hole in your chest

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
    11·
    6 个月前

    This reminds me the Hungarian “moderate conservative” who left behind Hitler’s Mein Kampf for Evola’s Rebellion Against the Modern World.

  • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
    4·
    6 个月前

    Like I’m sorry, I simply cannot get over this… It’s like you farted, but instead of refusing to own up to it, you just shit your pants and blame the smell on that… Somehow thinking that that’s better than having been found out as the one who farted…