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The youtuber is claiming modern games have “masculinized” female characters likely in response to attempts to not sexualize some female characters in contemporary games. Representing this as “erasure of feminity” sounds like a conservative defense of sexist gender norms.
Her right-wing views also explains why Asmongold, another streamer, is sending viewers her way.
If you’re not familiar, Asmongold has right-wing views himself (e.g. characterizing the Palestinian people as “terrible” and an “inferior culture”), and sexist views in particular, for example he was upset that a woman won a fan vote for an esports award, claiming it was a “diversity pick” and she only won because she was a woman (promoting a conspiracy theory that the vote was rigged because he doesn’t believe she actually could win the vote). He claims she wasn’t a top streamer despite the fact that she was a top streamer with 6.5 million fans, etc.
While nublung’s comment points out the youtuber’s sexism, likely what they meant by “hateful garbage” was the typical conservative bigotry, which aims at:
At the time of writing my comment I did not know about that other YouTuber and am glad I did not encounter them since.
That said I still think that video was not “hateful garbage”. While I do not agree with everything she said, I do think she makes some valid points and in other parts she represents her subjective tastes in video games.
Guilt by association is not itself a fallacy in all cases but here I think it unfair to not engage with the actual topic at all. This just furthers division instead of finding common ground.
Yes, I do think there is a tendency to condemn people from their associations, and that can lead to unfair characterizations - though I don’t think this is one of those cases.
Actually watching some of the video, her comments align pretty directly with conservative talking points and builds upon existing conservative “arguments” and outrage about the influence of feminism on video games.
I think nublung is basically suggesting we shouldn’t be sharing bigoted or hateful perspectives, which I agree with.
What here is hateful and if it is where is the hate aimed at?
The youtuber is claiming modern games have “masculinized” female characters likely in response to attempts to not sexualize some female characters in contemporary games. Representing this as “erasure of feminity” sounds like a conservative defense of sexist gender norms.
Her right-wing views also explains why Asmongold, another streamer, is sending viewers her way.
If you’re not familiar, Asmongold has right-wing views himself (e.g. characterizing the Palestinian people as “terrible” and an “inferior culture”), and sexist views in particular, for example he was upset that a woman won a fan vote for an esports award, claiming it was a “diversity pick” and she only won because she was a woman (promoting a conspiracy theory that the vote was rigged because he doesn’t believe she actually could win the vote). He claims she wasn’t a top streamer despite the fact that she was a top streamer with 6.5 million fans, etc.
While nublung’s comment points out the youtuber’s sexism, likely what they meant by “hateful garbage” was the typical conservative bigotry, which aims at:
At the time of writing my comment I did not know about that other YouTuber and am glad I did not encounter them since.
That said I still think that video was not “hateful garbage”. While I do not agree with everything she said, I do think she makes some valid points and in other parts she represents her subjective tastes in video games.
Guilt by association is not itself a fallacy in all cases but here I think it unfair to not engage with the actual topic at all. This just furthers division instead of finding common ground.
Yes, I do think there is a tendency to condemn people from their associations, and that can lead to unfair characterizations - though I don’t think this is one of those cases.
Actually watching some of the video, her comments align pretty directly with conservative talking points and builds upon existing conservative “arguments” and outrage about the influence of feminism on video games.
I think nublung is basically suggesting we shouldn’t be sharing bigoted or hateful perspectives, which I agree with.
Align with or are those talking points? If so what concretely is the problematic point here?
This is still not engaging with the content itself.
How does your suggestion not lead to an echo chamber? Ideas and arguments should be considered before dismissal.
Btw I find it really strange that you talk for someone else instead of making your own statements. How do you know what that user suggested?