• too_high_for_this@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Do you personally grow everything you eat? If not, animals (and humans) are absolutely harmed in the process. Commercial agriculture, even organic, kills huge numbers of small animals and destroys habitat just to prepare the soil, not to mention all the insects killed by pesticides. Farmers will also kill deer, wild pigs, birds, etc. to protect their crops. And agriculture in some places still relies on child and/or slave labor.

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      9 hours ago

      You are correct. There is more that i can and need to do. That still does not make it good to use honey.

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        34 minutes ago

        Hey no wait you’re supposed to throw your hands in the air and just eat industrially farmed animal corpses because there are also negative outcomes of vegetable production so obviously the two are completely equivalent

      • Szyler@lemmy.world
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        35 minutes ago

        Do you avoid all sugar products, or just honey?

        Sugar growing also kills animals. You cannot avoid all harm, so why discount honey for the harm you know, but not discounting harm from growing sugar?

        Reducing harm, sure, but it seems selective to discount honey for small amount of harm, when other things you (assumed) eat do equal (potentially unknown to you) harm.

        Do you need to know every process of growing/transporting something to eat it? Or does you list of edible products shrink as you learn every new form of harm?