“Whether you hate me, like me or are indifferent, do you want the best car, or do you not want the best car?” [Apartheid Manchild] told audiences at an event in November.

Well, for starters I don’t want a car at all. I’d rather use public transit. You know, an actually effective means of reducing emissions.

If I were in the market, yes, I would want the best car. Which is why I’d never buy a Tesla. I’d buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

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    I’d buy an XPeng or a BYD or the like.

    Well, good for you. Personally I’m not buying an internet connected Chinese car. If a car has the option of spying on you, and potentially be used in a hybrid attack, I’d prefer to get a car from a western manufacturer. And not Tesla either, Musk is too unstable and seems to be influenced by the same powers that has Trump’s ball in a vise.

    My current car is an internet connected EV, but it sure isn’t Chinese or a Tesla.

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        As I indicated by using first person singular in my comment, I was talking about me. What car you (second, singular) get is up to you.

        While I did write “If a car has the option of spying on you[…]”, I hope my usage of “you” as an informal pronoun was clear. I do realize that I could have used the word “one” instead, or rewritten the sentence entirely. I wrote like I speak, and I unfortunately do not speak like an English professor.

        Please remind me, where did you tell me that you live in China?

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            You’re the one who got mad that I didn’t know that you live in China. You hadn’t told me, or given me any clues. I mean there’s 1.450 billion people who speak English either natively or as second language. 10 million of those live in China. That means there’s a 99.3% chance that a random English speaker doesn’t live in China. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_English-speaking_population

            But do go on, keep staying pissed at me for something you misunderstood. I never said that you (as in you, not one) or anyone else for that matter, should not buy a Chinese EV. I said that I wouldn’t, and gave my reasons why. In the meantime, while you stay pissed, I’ll continue to not own a Chinese EV, maybe while telling my students about what happened in early summer 1989 on Tiananmen Square, and how Winnie the Poo is treating the Uyghurs in Xinjiang.

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        Your electronics you used to post this were made in China. Apple’s $1000 phones are made in China. Nintendo consoles are assembled in China, as is Playstation and Xbox. If you used anything you liked in the last ~30 years, China had a hand somewhere in it.

        China doesn’t have a magic power to remove all stability from its materials like a shitty alchemist, companies produce cheap bullshit because its cheaper to sell new ones than to fix old ones. It’s not some grand mystery of “MSG-elements” or whatever it will be called in the future. It’s simply that economics cares more about short-term profits than long-term gains. And cheap shitty materials will do that in any country that makes them.

        There’s junk from Germany, shit from Spain, and ass from America. Borders don’t inherently change the outcome of a assembly line’s finalized product. I’ve had good paper from America, great pens from China, and nice leather from Italy. But I can also walk to any metropolitan area in each of those countries and find you the cheapest, filmiest bullshit possible within the hour of stepping off that plane, that proudly states “MADE IN $LOCAL_COUNTRY”.

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        My Milwaukee tools were made in China and they are fantastic. Sure, some cheap chinese made stuff is crap but the higher end chinese products are every bit as good japanese or western made now.

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          Nearly a third of the world’s manufacturing is done in China. That’s good stuff and crap and everything in between. Chinesium exists because of engineering for a price point, and people are cheap.

          • This here exactly. There’s shit products made in China. There’s brilliant products made in China. It’s just like everything else as per the old adage: YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR!

            If you only want to pay shit product prices, you get shit products. A variant of “play stupid games, win stupid prizes”.