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        Which unfortunately will never get anywhere because the Republicans are almost guaranteed to win back the Senate…

        It really sucks. Either Trump wins and gets the trifecta of control letting the fascists at the heritage foundation run rampant or Kamala wins but still loses the Senate and we get nothing but the statue quo for at least 2 more years… But if anything the Republicans will gain seats in the next cycle because they can point to the previous 2 years of nothing (caused by them) as evidence that Democrats suck…

        Big sad. :(

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        I mean, at least she used to, before she started hanging out with Biden and dropped Medicare For All. Anyway, won’t destroy democracy.

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      One wants to be a dictator, the other doesn’t. They’re the same! \s

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        Nope. Biden even gave up his chance at a second term as soon as the polls suggested Americans would not re-elect him. The complete opposite of what Trump would do (did) in that situation.

        This is all pretty basic stuff really if you’re not a lunatic like Trump.

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          Polls had zero impact on that decision. It was 100% threats of campaign money stopping from the donor class that made the call.

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            Yes, it’s true that donors sometimes prefer giving money to candidates who have an actual chance of winning.

            Notice how none of these Democrats or donors seem be saying “hmm, why don’t we just steal it again like in 2020 and save our money!”, whereas for Trump stealing tge election seems to be the only thing he ever put actual genuine effort into while in office.

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        “Installed”? Bro the very idea of a “primary” is pretty rare in the world so yea, the party chose a candidate to represent them in the election. Plus she’s currently the VP and so was, in part, already elected to a very similar job which is a pretty good endorsement.

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      If you’re a progressive who thinks the Democratic Party is a tool of corporate America, talk to someone who still can’t forgive themselves for voting for Ralph Nader in 2000—then ask yourself which candidate, Harris or Trump, would give you any leverage to push for policies you care about.

      This is contradicted by this:

      Like you, we wish for the return of the Republican Party of Ronald Reagan, Bob Dole, John McCain, and Mitt Romney, a party animated by actual ideas. We believe that American politics are healthiest when vibrant conservative and liberal parties fight it out on matters of policy.

      I don’t want a return to party of Bush. I want the American people to have the highest standard of living in the world - not the people of Denmark, Norway, and Sweden.

      If you’re saying that Kamala will restore the GOP, then it seems that the American people will never be prioritized. In which case, we should all leave and emigrate to Scandinavia where their people are treated like human beings rather than servants

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          Bush lied about Iraq having WMDs and oversaw the patriot act, Guantanamo Bay waterboarding, and Abu Ghraib. He stole the election in 2000 in Bush v Gore. He was a fascist and damaged the US worse than Trump

          If the US won’t ever have single payer then we should emigrate to Denmark. Why would I want to live here?

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              What was McCains stance on all of the above?

              Pining for the party of Bush is pining for evil and diminished living standards

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                  You’re saying Kamala will help restore the GOP to the party of Bush and McCain. That is a terrible thing to admit. The neoconservatives are monsters who harmed the country, to say nothing of the innocents abroad who were tortured and murdered

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          They’re pining for the party of Bush because it was grounded in truth and ideas.

          It was WHAT!?

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        The poster above you didn’t put the entire article. Their post was merely the snippet from the end of it.

        Earlier on, the article stated:

        The Atlantic is a heterodox place, staffed by freethinkers, and for some of us, Kamala Harris’s policy views are too centrist, while for others they’re too liberal.

        In other words, this endorsement is the decision of more than one person. It isn’t contradictory for different people to want different things. The whole point was that multiple people have found multiple reasons to come to the same conclusion.

        But the article isn’t behind a paywall, and the link is right there. In the search to make sense of an extracted quote, the original source is a good place to start.

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          How does that help? If it’s plausible that she’ll restore the GOP then that’s very bad

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    she’s not a raging lunatic who sundowns at every rally?

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    There is only one sane choice. People who abstain are choosing insanity the same way that those who abstained in 2016 allowed insanity to prevail.

    Having said that, I think voters would be pretty excited to get out and support a candidate that they had actually chosen in the primaries after seeing them go through some campaigning and debates. None of us chose Kamala, and Biden’s late dropout was not ideal. I am hoping that America can have this opportunity back in the next election.