Are people who bought Teslas, some probably for laudable climate ends, now disgusted to drive their car every day? Or are people still buying them and it’s not yet hit home where their dollars are going…or other? Are people selling them due to political reasons now?

    • seemawn@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 小时前

      “fsck” is a pun, it is a linux command (check filesystem for errors), so if I was asked what I mean, I would say, I recommend this … guy to check himself, more exactly: His priorities.

  • pbbananaman@lemmy.world
    12·
    6 小时前

    I just don’t really give a shit. I like the car and it works well for me and provides a lot of comfort. I’m sure the ceos of all the other car companies are equally as shitty as Elon but quiet so does it really even matter? Don’t kid yourself that you’re saving the world for buying a Volvo or Toyota instead of a Tesla.

  • some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org
    5·
    5 小时前

    I see bumperstickers that say (paraphrasing), “I bought it before I knew Elon was an idiot.” Well, I’ve seen two: one online, one in real life. But my partner has also seen at least one in real life. So either the same car twice or two different cars.

  • mortalic@lemmy.world
    3·
    5 小时前

    I’ve said this in other similar threads, don’t add to your debt by unloading a depreciating asset, just to buy a similar depreciating asset. All ceo’s are likely trash people. Just look up ex Nissan CEO Carlos Ghosn(sp?) for a recent example.

    Elon might be top tier shitbag, but all ceo’s of car companies are right wing Nazi supporters.

  • callouscomic@lemm.eeEnglish
    38·
    10 小时前

    Set aside the politics. The cars are trash. Horribly made. People are idiots for buying them.

    • Nighed@feddit.ukEnglish
      11·
      6 小时前

      I mean, I disagree with the centre console choice, but the mainstream models are fine (factory dependent?)

      • Da Bald Eagul@feddit.nl
        2·
        1 小时前

        I don’t think I’ve seen any Tesla release coverage that doesn’t talk about panel gaps, fit & finish, and at least 1 leaky car. And let’s not start with the Cybertruck…

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    28·
    12 小时前

    I’ve been pretty happy with my Model 3 until he went full fash. Now all the joy has been sucked out of it. Right now, I can’t really afford to get a new car but I definitely won’t be buying another Tesla.

  • kaotic@lemmy.world
    24·
    13 小时前

    My partner and I wanted one. We test-drove a Model Y and Model 3. We were fully ready to buy one for our next vehicle. That’s changed. We are looking at other EVs now. I won’t give him my money.

  • fubarx@lemmy.ml
    48·
    14 小时前

    Got a ride in one coming back from a school event. The Mom driving it was so apologetic about having one. Musk is burning down a lot of goodwill with his customers.

  • vatlark@lemmy.worldM
    17·
    12 小时前

    This post was reported for breaking community rules. Its not obvious to me what rules would be broken. dm me if you feel strongly about it and would like to clarify.

  • jaschen@lemm.ee
    71·
    16 小时前

    I had a down payment for a Cybertruck and I passed on it when my number was called even tho my son is in love with it and I need a new vehicle.

    I put money where my mouth is. Fuck that guy

    • freeman@feddit.org
      12·
      11 小时前

      I strongly doubt that you NEED a cybertruck.

      Go with the smallest vehicle you can get away with. For moving house or buying a big couch or sth you can rent a bigger vehicle (a van is probbaly more practical in these situations anyway).

      Smaller vehicles are just so much cheaper in maintenance, EVs even more

      • jaschen@lemm.ee
        9·
        10 小时前

        I don’t need anything. Nobody needs anything except for water, food and shelter. But hear me out.

        My last vehicle was purchased in 1999. It is a small 2 seater coupe with 2 tiny tiny seats in the back. I have replaced the engine 2 times and transmission once. Parts are now getting hard to come by and my family needs are growing. We like camping and each time we rent a vehicle. We are constantly trying to figure out how to move our things in my tiny car. It’s a chore to drive a small car with a family.

        It’s 24 years and I feel like I have already done my part in reducing my carbon footprint.

        So when looking for my next vehicle, I wanted a bigger vehicle to go camping and carry equipment to my kids practice.

        I want reverse charging for my home, so my options are limited. Ford F150 and Cybertruck. Another selling point for the Cybertruck is that it’s bulletproof against handguns. That’s kinda nice knowing that if someone started shooting into my vehicle, we might survive.

        • Quazatron@lemmy.world
          11·
          8 小时前

          Completely off topic but as a European it blows my mind that gunfire resistance is a factor to consider when purchasing cars in America.

          • interrobang
            7·
            6 小时前

            No, its weird to me as an American too. Its not the fucking wild west here, very few people are catchin stray bullets in family cars lol thats not a real world concern, its security theatrics

    • jqubed@lemmy.world
      21·
      14 小时前

      If you need an electric pickup at least you have options. I’ve driven the F-150 Lightning a small bit and really liked it, and Ford is now including free installation of their bidirectional charger that allows the truck to serve as an emergency power source for your home.

      • jaschen@lemm.ee
        13·
        13 小时前

        I like the Rivan. The major gripe I have with it is the price. I can’t justify it over the Ford F150 lightning.

  • AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works
    26·
    14 小时前

    Driving less.

    Eyeing other brands, but financially it just doesn’t make sense right now because it’s paid off and has required zero maintenance.

    But, mentally, I hate being seen in public and fuck Elon Musk and I’ll move on as soon as it makes sense financially…or honestly, maybe even if it doesn’t.

  • Andy@slrpnk.net
    101·
    17 小时前

    I see Teslas in the bay area with bumper stickers that say things like “I didn’t know he was nuts when I bought this”

  • WastedJobe@feddit.org
    46·
    17 小时前

    If I had a Tesla, I would look into selling it, but I wouldn’t be in a hurry if it’s still in working order. Replacing a working car is neither environmentally nor economically sustainable.

    • podperson@lemm.ee
      1·
      54 分钟前

      Roughly the situation I’m in. I inherited an older model S when my dad passed away last year, and it’s old enough that it has free charging for life. So free car plus free charging (and less than 30k miles on it) equals “hard to pass up.” That said, their customer service has been consistently very terrible (have had it in twice plus a home visit to fix the charge port door not opening - ridiculous especially for such an essential piece of the vehicle), lots of very annoying little issues due to bad software and hardware engineering, and other expensive issues that cropped up due to poor product design and engineering (touchscreen got bubbles in it and had to be replaced - apparently they selected some laptop-type screen to use which can’t tolerate the heat that’s typically reached in a car sitting outside). Would never buy one and have even with the free charging, am still considering selling it to get away from the brand (let alone all of the whacko issues with the CEO).

    • JubilantJaguar@lemmy.world
      7·
      10 小时前

      You would consider selling an object because you don’t share the vendor’s politics?

      Do people here apply this reasoning in a consistent manner to all of their daily financial transactions? If so, you’re soon gonna be living in an empty home.

    • givesomefucks@lemmy.worldEnglish
      18·
      17 小时前

      Yeah. Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV

      For some reason all these people that super care about the environment aren’t doing that tho…

      Although by now I guess that’s really “10 year old Prius”

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
        8·
        12 小时前

        Not really though…

        Even in places where electricity is made with coal it doesn’t take that much mileage before your environmental impact becomes less than a gas car traveling the same distance and as time goes the gap in emissions just becomes wider and wider and wider. By buying the used Civic you’re taking the emissions from the car being produced out of the equation, but you’re still burning gas.

      • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
        19·
        16 小时前

        Yeah. Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV. For some reason all these people that super care about the environment aren’t doing that tho…

        I can’t fuel the 10 year old civic from the solar panels on my roof.

        Although by now I guess that’s really “10 year old Prius”

        I sold my 13 year old Prius to get the EV. If I hadn’t sold the Prius then that would be one less person would could follow your advice to buy an old Prius.

        • partial_accumen@lemmy.world
          1·
          44 秒前

          what’s the correct number of years between buying new cars

          Whatever number you give, there will be someone on the internet to tell you you’re wrong. Its almost like there isn’t a simple boiled-down answer to this and the each of us has different situations, circumstances, and resources so that there isn’t a single “one size fits all” answer, and even if there was, when a large enough population starts following that one answer, resources dry up and the “right” answer is now wrong.

      • Hegar@fedia.io
        12·
        16 小时前

        Buying a 10 year old civic will always be more environmentally responsible than buying a brand new EV

        I hear so few people talking about this fact. The middle and upper class don’t want to hear about any solution unless it involves buying status symbols.

        Proving you’re morally superior to the poors is definitely the most important part of combating climate change.

        • Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
          7·
          8 小时前

          People don’t talk about it because it’s not true.

          EV cars emit more to produce but they catch up the difference very quickly even if the electricity they use comes from coal generators. Gas cars total emissions keep increasing over time.

        • idiomaddict@lemmy.world
          7·
          14 小时前

          I got a used Nissan Leaf (that was one year old, so people didn’t realize it was used). Everyone was constantly telling me that I should have bought used because the lithium for a new battery is worse than anything else in the world. When I told them it was used, they either said I should have gotten an older one, or they just stopped talking about it.

      • XeroxCool@lemmy.world
        8·
        15 小时前

        People are going to buy new cars regardless. A used car market doesn’t make sense without someone buying new cars because eventually you run out of used cars. People are voting with their dollar for something more economical and efficient. Sure, you can call them out for still buying new, but buying used is further incentivizes people to buy new cars knowing the resale value will offset the expense. We’re all stuck paying into new car production.

        We might be getting out of the civic slump. Late 00s civics were not the cars to get. Maybe 2014 is out of the bad gneeration. If you picture a 1994 civic when I say “10 year old civic” I have some bad, bad news. A 2nd gen prius is a good buy. The EV market has cut into the prius used market and gas prices are low again so prices are down. Battery replacement isn’t atrocious.

      • proudblond@lemmy.worldEnglish
        8·
        16 小时前

        We bought Teslas six years ago. (Why we had to replace two cars in short order is a story for another day.) We did it at least in part because we were “voting with our wallets,” meaning we were trying to signal in our small way to the automotive industry that we wanted EVs.