• kandoh@reddthat.com
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    6 days ago

    I wonder if future generations will have to write everything by hand to prove it’s not chatgpt

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      6 days ago

      i guess it depends on the subject matter, but in my college courses i remember writing many timed in class essays (for midterms, exams, etc).

      However I studied mostly humanities, (english, history, philosophy etc) in university so that might be why, but with the rise of LLM I find it strange this has not become more common given the situation?

      I realize the article is about PhD students so this isn’t exactly on point, but still.

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        5 days ago

        It also wouldn’t prove anything useful, since students could simply use AI to author it and then just write it out. Then add onto that, writing it with pen would also make it harder to use automated ai-detection.

        Something tells me they didnt think this all the way through.

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          4 days ago

          Automated AI-detection doesn’t work. That’s discussed in the article. Even OpenAI deprecated their detection tool.

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            I mean, detection is and will continue be an arms-race. I’ve had some success in tests, especially with smaller or older models. Of course openai will not want to pay to develop the detection tools, given the misaligned incentives there. It would be silly to expect them to do so without a government mandate, or something of the sort.

            But all that is tangential to my point, since hand-writing would still only change how convenient it is to cheat.

            students could simply use AI to author it and then just write it out.

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              4 days ago

              Many companies voluntarily offer solutions to problems they themselves created, to try and prevent government regulation. This isn’t a new thing. The MPAA is a perfect example of this that is over 100 years old.